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A question regarding bind runes (again)
« on: May 01, 2017, 12:37:52 pm »
I've been diving into bind runes and have come across something that I was hoping someone here with a bit more knowledge on this could answer for me. I couldn't find anywhere where someone outright explained this, and I'm still fairly new to this so please bear with me:

When looking at and attempting to make your own bind runes, I commonly see things like this happen within the rune:

http://imgur.com/a/7RjJP

I know the reversed image of runes are said to be counteractive to there basic meanings, but is that only in rune casting?  I've seen some places say, for example the double Wunjo in the image, that it is supposed to infer balance of some sort?  I've also seen some places say that the message is essentially cancelled out if mirrored in this fashion.  Other places it seems that they disregard the opposition runes altogether.

I'm just looking for a little clarification, I'd really love to understand.  What can you tell me about the meanings when this is present in a bind rune?

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Re: A question regarding bind runes (again)
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2017, 06:07:36 am »
I've been diving into bind runes and have come across something that I was hoping someone here with a bit more knowledge on this could answer for me. I couldn't find anywhere where someone outright explained this, and I'm still fairly new to this so please bear with me:

When looking at and attempting to make your own bind runes, I commonly see things like this happen within the rune:

http://imgur.com/a/7RjJP

I know the reversed image of runes are said to be counteractive to there basic meanings, but is that only in rune casting?  I've seen some places say, for example the double Wunjo in the image, that it is supposed to infer balance of some sort?  I've also seen some places say that the message is essentially cancelled out if mirrored in this fashion.  Other places it seems that they disregard the opposition runes altogether.

I'm just looking for a little clarification, I'd really love to understand.  What can you tell me about the meanings when this is present in a bind rune?

In my experience, whether you take the inverted position of the runes into account is purely personal preference.

I wish I could remember my sources, but historically, when used for writing, runes were often flipped, but did not change meaning. As for magical purposes, I'm not sure there's any historical evidence for or against inverted runes.

Personally, I ignore the inverted/flipped "merkstave" idea - to me, the runes mean the same thing no matter what position they're in. I have heard that the trend of interpreting merkstave runes differently originated from tarot cards, but I'm not sure.

When it comes to bindrunes, I flip my runes all the time, completely for aesthetic purposes, because for me, the appearance of the bindrune contributes to its meaning.

I suppose you could try some bindrunes out, and see if the merkstave interpretations hold water for you. Unfortunately, there isn't a hard and fast answer for you, which always seems to be the case with runes -.-

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Re: A question regarding bind runes (again)
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2017, 02:38:47 pm »
In my experience, whether you take the inverted position of the runes into account is purely personal preference.

I wish I could remember my sources, but historically, when used for writing, runes were often flipped, but did not change meaning. As for magical purposes, I'm not sure there's any historical evidence for or against inverted runes.

Personally, I ignore the inverted/flipped "merkstave" idea - to me, the runes mean the same thing no matter what position they're in. I have heard that the trend of interpreting merkstave runes differently originated from tarot cards, but I'm not sure.

When it comes to bindrunes, I flip my runes all the time, completely for aesthetic purposes, because for me, the appearance of the bindrune contributes to its meaning.

I suppose you could try some bindrunes out, and see if the merkstave interpretations hold water for you. Unfortunately, there isn't a hard and fast answer for you, which always seems to be the case with runes -.-

This is my take as well.  When I use runes for divination, I don't read reversals as I do for tarot (or other card based systems where I draw and lay cards in a specific orientation).

When it comes to bind runes, I am more looking at the final product as a cohesive whole.  I want it to make visual sense, so sometimes parts (whether they are runes or letters or other symbols) get flipped, inverted, altered in size or even skewed in dimension (for example, Tiwaz may have uneven arms, or the two arms may come off at different angles).

If it really bothers you though, I think it can change the outcome.  If you strongly feel that an inverted rune will call in the opposing energy, I feel that can absolutely change how your final result works.  So I think it definitely depends on your personal beliefs about inversions.
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