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SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« on: June 26, 2015, 10:23:04 am »
In a 5-4 decision, the US Supreme Court has held that gays have the same right to marry as non-gays.

Form the New York Times:
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WASHINGTON — In a long-sought victory for the gay rights movement, the Supreme Court ruled on Friday that the Constitution guarantees a nationwide right to same-sex marriage.


Justice  Anthony M. Kennedy wrote the majority opinion in the 5 to 4 decision.  He was joined by the court’s four more liberal justices.

Good news, IMHO.
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2015, 10:37:22 am »
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No standard of scrutiny, just, "No, that is not acceptable," too.

A friend who's reading the decision at the moment quoted:
"It is now clear that the challenged laws burden the liberty of same-sex couples, and it must be further acknowledged that they abridge central precepts of equality . . . Especially against a long history of disapproval of their relationships, this denial to same-sex couples of the right to marry works a grave and continuing harm. The imposition of this disability on gays and lesbians serves to disrespect and subordinate them. And the Equal Protection Clause, like the Due Process Clause, prohibits this unjustified infringement of the fundamental right to marry."
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2015, 10:39:11 am »
Quote from: RandallS;176481
In a 5-4 decision, the US Supreme Court has held that gays have the same right to marry as non-gays.

Form the New York Times:


Good news, IMHO.

 
Wonderful news to wake up to, indeed!

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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2015, 12:56:59 pm »
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In a 5-4 decision, the US Supreme Court has held that gays have the same right to marry as non-gays.

Form the New York Times:


Good news, IMHO.
Great News Indeed!! Happy for all my Gay friends!!
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 01:34:17 pm »
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Good news, IMHO.

 

I worry 'bout poor Scalia's health, though.  Dude should really take the weekend off.
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 01:42:24 pm »
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I worry 'bout poor Scalia's health, though.  Dude should really take the weekend off.

I'm been reading the minority opinions (each of the four dissenting justices wrote their own which means they could not even agree with each other) and Scalia's reads like he was on something when he wrote it. Admittedly, Roberts' opinion doesn't make much more sense, but it's not as wacky as what Scalia wrote.

I imagine if these four Justices had been on the court in 1954, the Brown vs the Board of Education decision would have also been 5-4 and I suspect the dissenting opinions would have read much like these.
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 02:00:04 pm »
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... it's not as wacky as what Scalia wrote.

 
I haven't read it, but I'd not be surprised if it's filled with more jiggery-pokery, or whatever.  

As to Brown v. Board-- yeah, that ain't unlikely.
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2015, 02:40:10 pm »
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I worry 'bout poor Scalia's health, though.  Dude should really take the weekend off.

 
Mostly, I've been pointing and laughing at my computer screen when reading quotes of his:whis:


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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2015, 03:01:12 pm »
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Mostly, I've been pointing and laughing at my computer screen when reading quotes of his:whis:


I keep checking back to see if Altair's popped in yet.  

He's probably dancing on his desk right now.
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2015, 03:32:55 pm »
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I'm been reading the minority opinions (each of the four dissenting justices wrote their own which means they could not even agree with each other) and Scalia's reads like he was on something when he wrote it. Admittedly, Roberts' opinion doesn't make much more sense, but it's not as wacky as what Scalia wrote.

I imagine if these four Justices had been on the court in 1954, the Brown vs the Board of Education decision would have also been 5-4 and I suspect the dissenting opinions would have read much like these.


I think Scalia is going to stroke out with that temper tantrum. I wonder if he held his breath and turned blue.
 
Did you catch that delicious little bit of irony where Roberts mentions the Kalahari Bushmen, Aztecs, Han Chinese and Carthaginians as models of marriage and asks who we think we are? Um... Your Honor, Mr. Chief Justice... we aren't any of them either.

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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2015, 04:13:41 pm »
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I haven't read it, but I'd not be surprised if it's filled with more jiggery-pokery, or whatever.  

 
There's a bit of it that seriously reads as Argument From I'm Not Happy With Monogamy And Neither Are Hippies.
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2015, 05:25:12 pm »
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In a 5-4 decision, the US Supreme Court has held that gays have the same right to marry as non-gays.

Form the New York Times:


Good news, IMHO.


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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2015, 07:45:14 pm »
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I think Scalia is going to stroke out with that temper tantrum. I wonder if he held his breath and turned blue.
 
Did you catch that delicious little bit of irony where Roberts mentions the Kalahari Bushmen, Aztecs, Han Chinese and Carthaginians as models of marriage and asks who we think we are? Um... Your Honor, Mr. Chief Justice... we aren't any of them either.

 
As positive role models?

Um. Mkay.
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2015, 07:52:43 pm »
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Did you catch that delicious little bit of irony where Roberts mentions the Kalahari Bushmen, Aztecs, Han Chinese and Carthaginians as models of marriage and asks who we think we are? Um... Your Honor, Mr. Chief Justice... we aren't any of them either.

Interesting fact: one of the Han Emperors was openly homosexual. Though he married and begot an heir out of duty, he was said to have told courtiers beforehand that the thought of sex with a woman made him feel ill.

And there were also the male lovers. So...
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds Right of Gays to Marry!
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2015, 08:19:53 am »
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Unbelievable, that I lived to see this day!

And a friend of mine and her partner in the Austin area managed to get married yesterday. Another friend of mine in San Antonio and his partner are planning to marry in early August. Very good effects here in Texas already, as most county clerks seem to be ignoring the state Attorney General's request that they not issue marriage licenses to same sex couples until he issues rules and forms for it (which he is probably in no hurry to do because he's a strong opponent of gay marriage -- he's a Tea Party Republican like our governor).
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