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SCOTUS Upholds ObamaCare
« on: June 28, 2012, 01:24:43 pm »
OK, maybe I missed it, but I figured the political hounds on this board would be all over this by now.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us/supreme-court-lets-health-law-largely-stand.html?_r=1&hp

To say that I'm thrilled--not to mention surprised (esp. by the Roberts part)--would be an understatement. But here are my favorite parts:

Headline from my fave blog, JoeMyGod.com:
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It's As If Millions Of Teabaggers Cried Out In Terror And Were Suddenly Silenced

(props to those of you geeks, like me, who recognize from where the headline is brilliantly purloined)

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People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare
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These are akin to that photo of the guy using his hand to shield his eyes from the sun...while wearing a baseball cap backwards. Them there Americans don't know nuthin' about Canadia!
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds ObamaCare
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 01:28:38 pm »
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(props to those of you geeks, like me, who recognize from where the headline is brilliantly purloined)

 
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds ObamaCare
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 01:42:16 pm »
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OK, maybe I missed it, but I figured the political hounds on this board would be all over this by now.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us/supreme-court-lets-health-law-largely-stand.html?_r=1&hp

To say that I'm thrilled--not to mention surprised (esp. by the Roberts part)--would be an understatement.

I am doubly thrilled. SCOTUS upheld the law but ruled that Congress did not have the power to mandate people buy health insurance under the commerce clause (but did have the power to TAX people who did not buy it under their taxation power).

This is good (IMHO) because if Congress could mandate that people buy a product under the commerce clause, I expected all sorts of large businesses to start pressuring Congress to pass laws requiring everyone to buy their products.  It sounds silly, I know, but think about how large business effectively "buy" (with campaign donations) laws in their favor now and you know that some immoral business leader would glom onto the idea of requiring everyone to buy their product by law to increase their sales and profits easily.  Pressuring Congress to TAX people who don't buy their product would be far less likely to work well.
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds ObamaCare
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 02:36:55 pm »
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I am no scifi geek but....Star Wars?

 
Yup. The real one (not the nouveau piece-o'-crap trilogy). After Alderaan is blown to bits, Alec Guinness utters the immortal line in that wise old Obi-Wan Kenobi way.
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I am doubly thrilled. SCOTUS upheld the law but ruled that Congress did not have the power to mandate people buy health insurance under the commerce clause (but did have the power to TAX people who did not buy it under their taxation power).


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Yup. The real one (not the nouveau piece-o'-crap trilogy). After Alderaan is blown to bits, Alec Guinness utters the immortal line in that wise old Obi-Wan Kenobi way.

 
And that line begins with "I sense a disturbance in the Force."  Pop Culture Osmosis is such a weird thing.


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Re: SCOTUS Upholds ObamaCare
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 03:46:09 pm »
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People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare


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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 04:39:36 pm »
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I am doubly thrilled. SCOTUS upheld the law but ruled that Congress did not have the power to mandate people buy health insurance under the commerce clause (but did have the power to TAX people who did not buy it under their taxation power).


I (mostly) called that in the last discussion on it.  Granted, I thought they would call it a tax and then punt until later.

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2012, 04:44:16 pm »
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People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare
http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-moving-to-canada-because-of-obamacare


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Lots of good stuff here, but most on point is #16.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/the-internet-responds-to-supreme-court-ruling-on-o
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2012, 05:00:25 pm »
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People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare
This just made me snort Pepsi out my nose...  :whis:

Though I have to admit I'm a disturbed about all the "2nd Civil War" comments I keep seeing.
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Re: SCOTUS Upholds ObamaCare
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2012, 05:23:07 pm »
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OK, maybe I missed it, but I figured the political hounds on this board would be all over this by now.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us/supreme-court-lets-health-law-largely-stand.html?_r=1&hp

To say that I'm thrilled--not to mention surprised (esp. by the Roberts part)--would be an understatement. But here are my favorite parts:

Headline from my fave blog, JoeMyGod.com:

(props to those of you geeks, like me, who recognize from where the headline is brilliantly purloined)

and this:
People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare
http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-moving-to-canada-because-of-obamacare
These are akin to that photo of the guy using his hand to shield his eyes from the sun...while wearing a baseball cap back wards. Them there Americans don't know nuthin' about Canadia!


I am glad they ruled that mandating purchase was unconstitutional. I don't think it's a great fix of the major issues in health care.

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Re: SCOTUS Upholds ObamaCare
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2012, 06:15:25 pm »
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Lots of good stuff here, but most on point is #16.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/the-internet-responds-to-supreme-court-ruling-on-o

 
I love it - but I don't know where they got the 45% figure for atheism.  Census figures for 2001 (old, but we only ask about religion every ten years, and the data from last year's census hasn't been released yet) place "no religious affiliation" - which will include more than just atheists - at 16.5%.  (for a bit of cross-border comparison, The Wild Hunt has had quite a bit to say about "nones" lately; the figures Jason uses there show the US at 16% of which only 1.6% are explicitly atheist.)  There are apparently studies that estimate Canada's current non-religious population anywhere from 19% to 30%.  (A quick-and-dirty check via Wikipedia; I'm disinclined to take time to do any better digging.)

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Re: SCOTUS Upholds ObamaCare
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2012, 06:35:03 pm »
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I (mostly) called that in the last discussion on it.  Granted, I thought they would call it a tax and then punt until later.

True, you did pretty much peg that.
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