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Author Topic: Savita Halappanavar, 31, dies in Ireland after being refused life-saving abortion  (Read 2642 times)

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I'm pretty sure I don't need to say how I feel about this.


Generally speaking I sympathise with Ireland's policy on abortion and maintaining the Catholic faith; but that is too damn much. Some changes need to be made...

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I'm pretty sure I don't need to say how I feel about this.

 
If the US had the same law, I'd be dead right now. I was allowed the abortion that saved my life. So reading about Savita has been a really emotional thing for me. I'm horrified that even though the fetus wasn't going to live, they couldn't save her life by ending the pregnancy. Instead of saving her and letting the already-dying fetus go, the doctors let her die with it. There's no excuse for allowing a preventable death.

And if I'm to be completely honest, there's also some survivor's guilt in my reaction to the news. If I lived in the kind of US that my parents and grandparents envision, it could have so easily happened to me.
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I'm pretty sure I don't need to say how I feel about this.

 
It's horrifying and infuriating that this can happen in the 21st Century.

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It's horrifying and infuriating that this can happen in the 21st Century.

 
This woman was murdered pure and simple. The medical staff that stood there and watched her die in agony ought to be brought up on charges. There is absolutely no excuse for this, I don't care what the law says, who in their right mind would not have broken it in this case?

It's revolting and terrifying.

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I'm pretty sure I don't need to say how I feel about this.

 
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I don't care what the law says, who in their right mind would not have broken it in this case?


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The wheels have been in motion since before this, and it will change. Hopefully sooner than later.

 
I read on several different news sites that Ireland does allow abortions if the mother's life is in danger, but the law is so vague and undefined that it leaves lots of room for doctors to decide based on their own beliefs.

Given that, I blame the medical staff specifically, not the people of Ireland. They could have helped Savita. They knew the fetus couldn't be saved. Instead, they chose to torture her for days and then they let her die.

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I read on several different news sites that Ireland does allow abortions if the mother's life is in danger, but the law is so vague and undefined that it leaves lots of room for doctors to decide based on their own beliefs.

Given that, I blame the medical staff specifically, not the people of Ireland. They could have helped Savita. They knew the fetus couldn't be saved. Instead, they chose to torture her for days and then they let her die.

Agreed.

I know nothing about Irish law, but, if criminal charges can't be brought against the medical staff and hospital, I wonder if Savita's husband can bring a civil suit for wrongful death?

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Jezebel reports Ireland is legalizing abortion if the mother's life is in danger, including if she's suicidal.  Unsurprisingly, the Irish Roman Catholic church is not pleased.
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This is just about the worst thing I have heard of in a long time.  This is what you would call murder...........Why didn't they take steps to try and stop the labor?
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I'm pretty sure I don't need to say how I feel about this.


Hopefully the international attention this is getting will help push abortion laws in Ireland in a more positive direction. It's really heartbreaking this had to happen, though.

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