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Author Topic: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests  (Read 6728 times)

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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #75 on: August 09, 2012, 10:59:02 pm »
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I guess I'm the exception here. I had my first job at 14, working off the books for my grandparents, and I didn't get a car or a cellphone until I saved my money and bought them myself (I was 18 when I got the car and 20 when I got the phone).


Yes you are and  that's not a  bad thing!

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I think it starts well before the teenage years.

I have 2 daughters, currently 20 and 22.  They've been doing their own laundry since about 1st grade -- as soon as they were tall enough to stand on a stool and reach the buttons.  It's not like using a washing machine or dryer or microwave or dishwasher or whatever is that difficult.  They weren't allowed to use the stove unsupervised until they were old enough to do so safely, of course, but they helped me cook from a very young age, so they'd know how later.

Now, they're amazed when their friends don't know how to do their own laundry or cook their own food.

Just a few weeks ago, my younger daughter field stripped the door of her car while on a trip, to try to fix a problem with the window mechanism.  The only tools she had were a drill bit and a pair of pliers.  And her friends could only stand there and watch.

I've always believed that kids will live right down to the expectations of the important adults in their lives.  

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You notice I said  we/us as parents in my post  because i"m just as  guilty as doing some coddling  of my own kids as other  parents are. Recently I've  seen some of the stuff I was doing wasn't helping  my kids  be responsible  and  kept them in a needy dependent  situation. It is hard to  let go when your  kids  grow  up beyond the stage where they  actually NEED  you to do things for them, some parents  fall in that rut and  never  get out of it, other parents  realize the rut  and  get out of  it and  yet other parents  don't  even  go near  the rut. I think the  2 above  quotes are   examples of  parents  who never  got near the rut! Now  if we  can just  get the  rest of  us "in the  rut" parents on that band wagon.... :)
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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #76 on: August 10, 2012, 04:29:08 am »
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Now, they're amazed when their friends don't know how to do their own laundry or cook their own food.

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When I was 19 and in training for the USAF (had my nineteenth b-day the day we did the gas chamber in basic, quite memorable) I had to teach several people how to do their own laundry. They were both over 18. It was surreal.

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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #77 on: August 10, 2012, 08:15:55 am »
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« Reply #78 on: August 10, 2012, 08:22:43 am »
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When I was 19 and in training for the USAF (had my nineteenth b-day the day we did the gas chamber in basic, quite memorable) I had to teach several people how to do their own laundry. They were both over 18. It was surreal.

 
This is where I;m going to sound sexst.  Were they boys or girls?  oys not being able to do thebir own laundry at 19 may not be that unusual, since it was always expected that he would have a woman to do it. Not that I think they shouldn;t have to, but many people stll do think boys should have a woman to cook and clean for them.
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« Reply #79 on: August 10, 2012, 10:55:40 am »
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This is where I;m going to sound sexst.  Were they boys or girls?  oys not being able to do thebir own laundry at 19 may not be that unusual, since it was always expected that he would have a woman to do it. Not that I think they shouldn;t have to, but many people stll do think boys should have a woman to cook and clean for them.

 
I'm supposed to have women cook for me?  I need to call my union so they can find more women to be cooks at work rather than all the men.

I guess same thing for laundry at work, when we had laundry & room service.  It was a woman that collected the laundry, but it was a couple of guys that did all the actual laundry.

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« Reply #80 on: August 10, 2012, 11:16:47 am »
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I'm supposed to have women cook for me?  I need to call my union so they can find more women to be cooks at work rather than all the men.

I guess same thing for laundry at work, when we had laundry & room service.  It was a woman that collected the laundry, but it was a couple of guys that did all the actual laundry.

 
I'm pretty sure Mandrina was talking about young boys who are not working, but rather being taken care of in their respective homes. If you're working, well, you do the work that needs to be done, regardless of gender.

That being said, my experience lines up with Mandrina's. My brother and my father are both taken care of by my mother far more than she takes care of me, although I think my brother is actually more self-sufficient (my mother, who grew up poor, lived in a hard-working family where everyone had to pull their weight around. My father did not.) than my father is, in terms of being able to cook and do laundry for himself. She still, however, does most of the work for them around the house.
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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #81 on: August 10, 2012, 11:23:54 am »
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I've always believed that kids will live right down to the expectations of the important adults in their lives.  

 
Absolutely.

On another note, can you send your daughter over to fix my car? :p
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« Reply #82 on: August 10, 2012, 01:18:02 pm »
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http://jezebel.com/5932241/louisiana-high-school-kicks-girls-out-if-they-refuse-pregnancy-tests-andor-if-theyre-pregnant

What is this I don't even

.....This can't be real, right? It has to be an elaborate hoax dreamed up by some genius writers, or an early/late April Fool's Day prank. There's no way any school is really doing this, right?
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I think my faith in humanity just plummeted to -1 billion.

 
Not to mention the circumstances that would  result in the teachers getting suspicious in the first place and I have three possible scenerios. One, they have a bf so they 'must' be pregnant; two, rumors; three, they have gotten bigger. In that case I could see y ESP w the third y they would even refuse in the first place. As for the positives they obviously nvr heard o a false positive. What about the fathers o the unborn child?

I know there is a chance o this being fake but if its true then those r my thoughts on it.
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« Reply #83 on: August 10, 2012, 06:38:13 pm »
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I know there is a chance o this being fake but if its true then those r my thoughts on it.

Unfortunately, it's not a hoax.  The ACLU doesn't generally joke about civil rights:  

http://www.aclu.org/blog/womens-rights-lgbt-rights-religion-belief-reproductive-freedom/get-tested-or-get-out-school
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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #84 on: August 10, 2012, 07:10:10 pm »
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Not to mention the circumstances that would  result in the teachers getting suspicious in the first place and I have three possible scenerios. One, they have a bf so they 'must' be pregnant; two, rumors; three, they have gotten bigger. In that case I could see y ESP w the third y they would even refuse in the first place. As for the positives they obviously nvr heard o a false positive. What about the fathers o the unborn child?

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« Reply #85 on: August 10, 2012, 07:36:25 pm »
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I've always believed that kids will live right down to the expectations of the important adults in their lives.

 

I don't just believe it, I've observed it.

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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #86 on: August 10, 2012, 07:40:33 pm »
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This is where I;m going to sound sexst.  Were they boys or girls?  oys not being able to do thebir own laundry at 19 may not be that unusual, since it was always expected that he would have a woman to do it. Not that I think they shouldn;t have to, but many people stll do think boys should have a woman to cook and clean for them.

 
If Asch's experiences were anything like mine, some of each.

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I'm supposed to have women cook for me?  I need to call my union so they can find more women to be cooks at work rather than all the men.

I guess same thing for laundry at work, when we had laundry & room service.  It was a woman that collected the laundry, but it was a couple of guys that did all the actual laundry.

 
I;m not talking about guys in the military or the merchant marine, they have always had guys to do the cooking and the laundry, at least until women were actually allowed on board, so now there is actually the possibility of a woman doing it.  I;m talking about the male/female division of labor that is done in many families, where the women do the inside house work and the men do the outside house work, and when a boy left home, he'd probably be married, where he'd have a woman do to it, or he'd be in university where the cooking would probably be done in a cafeteria, but he might have to do his own laundry, but then again, depending on where he was living, laundry might be provided.
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« Reply #88 on: August 10, 2012, 09:36:29 pm »
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..  I;m talking about the male/female division of labor that is done in many families, where the women do the inside house work and the men do the outside house work, and when a boy left home, he'd probably be married, where he'd have a woman do to it, or he'd be in university where the cooking would probably be done in a cafeteria, but he might have to do his own laundry, but then again, depending on where he was living, laundry might be provided.


The interesting thing to me is that in many of those families that I have experienced the mother / grand-mother is the one who ensures the wife did such tasks.  If not the mother or grand-mother then the boy's sisters.  My sister's left little room for error when my wife first met them about what they though she should do.

I recall growing up where my mother or grand-mother would "Assist" my sister's when their dates came over.  Praising their ability to cook and do other womanly chores and run a household properly.  I always tough it funny when mom or my aunt or grand-mother would cook something then claim one of my sisters did it.

Though us boys didn't get a free ride either.  We had to know how to cook, wash the laundry and do the dishes along with other house hold chores.  It's like in my immediate family I tend to do the dishes and laundry.  About the only complaint my wife usually has is that I tend to change her kitchen around when I put things up.  My wife, Karen, likes to tinker with the cars and other mechanical things and gets in there with our youngest son to tear an engine apart or any other thing.  Our grand-daughter will be taught to do the same if she desires though we but heads with our son who thinks that is un-lady like pursuits.

Though I have to admit I think that perspective is fading but I admit equally I might be wrong.

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« Reply #89 on: August 10, 2012, 10:27:28 pm »
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I;m not talking about guys in the military or the merchant marine, they have always had guys to do the cooking and the laundry, at least until women were actually allowed on board, so now there is actually the possibility of a woman doing it.  I;m talking about the male/female division of labor that is done in many families, where the women do the inside house work and the men do the outside house work, and when a boy left home, he'd probably be married, where he'd have a woman do to it, or he'd be in university where the cooking would probably be done in a cafeteria, but he might have to do his own laundry, but then again, depending on where he was living, laundry might be provided.

 

1 - I was trying to be funny.

2 - From the 1880s to the early 1960s there were lots of women (and gays from at least 1930s) on the US flag passenger ships.

3 - I fit that scenario.  I did very little cooking in high school, went to a military school with mandatory food plan to working on ships to getting married. Between ships I ate out or bought groceries for whose ever house I was staying at. I did learn to cook, at least according to some women although what I did I don't consider cooking. Laundry though was learned in junior high.

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