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Author Topic: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests  (Read 6722 times)

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A Louisiana public school reserves the right to force girls they "suspect" are with child to take pregnancy tests on command. Students who test positive — or refuse to take the pregnancy test in the first place — aren't allowed to go to school anymore.


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What is this I don't even

.....This can't be real, right? It has to be an elaborate hoax dreamed up by some genius writers, or an early/late April Fool's Day prank. There's no way any school is really doing this, right?

I think my faith in humanity just plummeted to -1 billion.

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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2012, 01:02:39 am »
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.....This can't be real, right? It has to be an elaborate hoax dreamed up by some genius writers, or an early/late April Fool's Day prank. There's no way any school is really doing this, right?


 
I would tell you for sure if I could, but my brain read the article, said, 'it's too late for this shit.', and shut down.

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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2012, 03:03:41 am »
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I would tell you for sure if I could, but my brain read the article, said, 'it's too late for this shit.', and shut down.

I'm right there with ya.  
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Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2012, 08:15:46 am »
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What is this I don't even

.....This can't be real, right? It has to be an elaborate hoax dreamed up by some genius writers, or an early/late April Fool's Day prank. There's no way any school is really doing this, right?

I think my faith in humanity just plummeted to -1 billion.

Way to go Louisiana - wasting taxpayer dollars on illegal laws.  Asshats.

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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2012, 08:18:34 am »
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.....This can't be real, right? It has to be an elaborate hoax dreamed up by some genius writers, or an early/late April Fool's Day prank. There's no way any school is really doing this, right?

In Louisiana? I can easily believe it. I think the people who came up with the policy should be jailed for a long time, but I can believe it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2012, 08:30:47 am »
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In Louisiana? I can easily believe it. I think the people who came up with the policy should be jailed for a long time, but I can believe it.

I'm just trying to imagine my reaction if I'd had to deal with that policy when I was that age.  Those girls are going to be traumatized.  Poor kids.

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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2012, 08:42:05 am »
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http://jezebel.com/5932241/louisiana-high-school-kicks-girls-out-if-they-refuse-pregnancy-tests-andor-if-theyre-pregnant

What is this I don't even

.....This can't be real, right? It has to be an elaborate hoax dreamed up by some genius writers, or an early/late April Fool's Day prank. There's no way any school is really doing this, right?

I think my faith in humanity just plummeted to -1 billion.

If one goes to the homepage of the school its a charter school and does not appear to be public.  Given that there is an enrollment criteria (50 - 50 ratio of at-risk student to non-at-risk students and other criteria) and parents have to sign acceptance conditions it seems they are aware of this condition and have accepted it.

I admit I didn't go through all the pages of the policy document so there maybe a lot more contained within it.

Couldn't find the justification or reasoning for the policy so all I can do is wonder the reasoning behind it.  It did point out though that a student is sent to a doctor of the school's choice to be tested which makes one further wonder about it.

I have seen a number of public schools in the south that will place a pregnant student on home school after a certain point but none that kicks them out.   But to kick them out due to breaking this rule seems really out there to me.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2012, 08:51:16 am »
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If one goes to the homepage of the school its a charter school and does not appear to be public.  Given that there is an enrollment criteria (50 - 50 ratio of at-risk student to non-at-risk students and other criteria) and parents have to sign acceptance conditions it seems they are aware of this condition and have accepted it.

I admit I didn't go through all the pages of the policy document so there maybe a lot more contained within it.

Couldn't find the justification or reasoning for the policy so all I can do is wonder the reasoning behind it.  It did point out though that a student is sent to a doctor of the school's choice to be tested which makes one further wonder about it.

I have seen a number of public schools in the south that will place a pregnant student on home school after a certain point but none that kicks them out.   But to kick them out due to breaking this rule seems really out there to me.

Article says public charter school.  Which means regardless of what parents agree to it's illegal.  (No idea if being private would change that.)

And I suspect the first time a "good girl " ended up on the wrong side of that rule it would go nuclear.

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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2012, 09:03:31 am »
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Article says public charter school.  Which means regardless of what parents agree to it's illegal.  (No idea if being private would change that.)

And I suspect the first time a "good girl " ended up on the wrong side of that rule it would go nuclear.


Even being charter doesn't mean its subject to all the normal rules and regulations of a public school.  It's also if one reads into the policy it appears the student is placed on home school not kicked out of the school or program.

The only illegal aspect I can see is that in most public schools the student is given the option of continuing at school or going into a home school program.  Here it appears they have no option and must go into the program.

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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2012, 09:14:30 am »
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Another person took the time to quote the full section being discussed.  Here is that section as the transcriber recorded upon thier site for discussion.

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As a school of choice, parents, administrators, and the Board of Directors place high expectations on the student and will require that all students adhere to the school's high standards. Delhi Charter School has established an environment whereby the conduct of its students must be in keeping with the school's goals and objectives relative to character development. The Delhi Charter School curriculum will maintain an environment in which all students will learn and exhibit acceptable character traits that govern language, gestures, physical actions, and written words.

If an administrator or teacher suspects a student is pregnant, a parent conference will be held. The school reserve the right to require any female student to take a pregnancy test to confirm whether or not the suspected student is in fact pregnant. The school further reserve the right to refer the suspect student to a physician of its choice. If the test indicates that the student is pregnant, the student will not be permitted to attend classes on the campus of Delhi Charter School.

If a student is determined to be pregnant and wishes to continue to attend Delhi Charter School, the student will be required to pursue a course of home study that will be provided by the school. Students engaged in home study will bee required to meet all of the school's ordinary, high academic standards in order to be promoted.

Any student who is suspected of being pregnant and who refuses to submit to a pregnancy test shall be treated as a pregnant student and will be offered home study opportunities. If home study opportunities are no acceptable, the student will be counseled to seek other educational opportunities


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Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2012, 10:26:16 am »
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Another person took the time to quote the full section being discussed.  Here is that section as the transcriber recorded upon thier site for discussion.



http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/35114403/ACLU-going-after-Delhi-Charter-School-for-pregnancy-policy.aspx

Nothing changes the sheer horror and embarrassment of being forced to take a pregnancy test by the school.  We're talking teen girls being accused of being "bad " by the school.  That's horrifying.

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Nothing changes the sheer horror and embarrassment of being forced to take a pregnancy test by the school.  We're talking teen girls being accused of being "bad " by the school.  That's horrifying.


Oh I'm not disagreeing with you at all.  I think being forced to take such a test simply because someone else thinks your pregnant or might be is wrong.  It's just to me there are two separate issues being addressed here.  One the student being forced into a home based program if they are pregnant, two the fact of them possibly being mandated to take such a test or automatically assumed to be pregnant.

What I can't find is the stastical breakdown of students who have been forced into such a choice already.  If the school has a 50-50 ratio or as close to that as possible, you'd expect the ratio of girls being subjected to it to be the same.  If its a disportionant amount of at-risk girls lets say then you may have other grounds to address it on.  It also fails to answer the question of are the results equal across the board between the at-risk and not-at-risk groups.

But one significant aspect though is the parents still sign and accept the conditions as a condition of enrollement in the school.  As such no one group is being singled out nor are conditions being placed upon one group of girls that is not applicable to the other.

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Re: Louisiana High School Kicks Girls Out If They Refuse Pregnancy Tests
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2012, 11:18:06 am »
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Nothing changes the sheer horror and embarrassment of being forced to take a pregnancy test by the school.  We're talking teen girls being accused of being "bad " by the school.  That's horrifying.

 
I fail to understand what a girl being pregant has to do with attending school.  

Can that be extended to the workplace?
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2012, 11:22:12 am »
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Oh I'm not disagreeing with you at all.  I think being forced to take such a test simply because someone else thinks your pregnant or might be is wrong.  It's just to me there are two separate issues being addressed here.  One the student being forced into a home based program if they are pregnant, two the fact of them possibly being mandated to take such a test or automatically assumed to be pregnant.

What I can't find is the stastical breakdown of students who have been forced into such a choice already.  If the school has a 50-50 ratio or as close to that as possible, you'd expect the ratio of girls being subjected to it to be the same.  If its a disportionant amount of at-risk girls lets say then you may have other grounds to address it on.  It also fails to answer the question of are the results equal across the board between the at-risk and not-at-risk groups.

But one significant aspect though is the parents still sign and accept the conditions as a condition of enrollement in the school.  As such no one group is being singled out nor are conditions being placed upon one group of girls that is not applicable to the other.

See, I don't think any of that is really relevant.  It's still only hurting the girls, it's still disgusting, and it's still discrimination based on being female.  Whether or not it's rich girls or poor girls doesn't matter that much.  It's invasive, sexist, and none of the school's business.

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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2012, 11:30:32 am »
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I fail to understand what a girl being pregant has to do with attending school.  

Can that be extended to the workplace?

Teen pregnancy is one of those things people want to go away.  Or make the pregnant girls go away.

As far as the workplace, they can't make you go away but if they disapprove they can make you very miserable.  And there's no chance of getting hired preggers.

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