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Author Topic: The Attack in Canada  (Read 1881 times)

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The Attack in Canada
« on: October 23, 2014, 09:17:38 am »
Hey, Canadian Cauldronites,

I just wanted to say we've been thinking about you down here in the States, and we hope the vile, violent crap you endured yesterday is done.
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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2014, 01:41:12 pm »
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Hey, Canadian Cauldronites,

I just wanted to say we've been thinking about you down here in the States, and we hope the vile, violent crap you endured yesterday is done.
I hope so too, although they've arrested another man walking around in public with a rifle in Halifax this morning (no shots fired, as far as I can tell from reports). No word on if its related, but I'm worried its not and people will get "courage" to do similar things in other cities.
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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2014, 04:05:50 pm »
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I hope so too, although they've arrested another man walking around in public with a rifle in Halifax this morning (no shots fired, as far as I can tell from reports). No word on if its related, but I'm worried its not and people will get "courage" to do similar things in other cities.


That would suck. We look northward for sanity on guns; it was nice to know there was a place not so unlike our own where there wasn't another random crazy engaged in a mass shooting every 15 minutes.
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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2014, 07:07:14 pm »
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Hey, Canadian Cauldronites,

I just wanted to say we've been thinking about you down here in the States, and we hope the vile, violent crap you endured yesterday is done.

 
Thanks, I hope so too. The media likes to rile people up into hysterics, suggesting it's a terrorist attack related to ISIS, although I get the impression it was just one Canadian-born crackpot looking for attention. Hopefully that arrest in Halifax is unrelated, and not anything serious. Still, it's scary, and it's sad that Cpl Nathan Cirillo lost his life because of this craziness.

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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2014, 08:20:02 pm »
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Hey, Canadian Cauldronites,

I just wanted to say we've been thinking about you down here in the States, and we hope the vile, violent crap you endured yesterday is done.

 
I hope so too, This was a terrible, terrible thing to happen in such a nice, quiet, peaceful country, there was no reason for it what-so-ever and it makes me sad, my thoughts, prayers, and good energies be with you all!:ange:
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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2014, 08:12:19 am »
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Thanks, I hope so too. The media likes to rile people up into hysterics, suggesting it's a terrorist attack related to ISIS, although I get the impression it was just one Canadian-born crackpot looking for attention.

That's what it looks like -- the terrorist/ISIS connection seems feeble if there at all form what I've seen. Of course media reports here in the US seem to be stressing that possible link.
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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2014, 10:58:29 am »
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That's what it looks like -- the terrorist/ISIS connection seems feeble if there at all form what I've seen. Of course media reports here in the US seem to be stressing that possible link.

This is why I really like Peter Mansbridge.

Anyways, the ISIS link is probably nil. It looks like he had some paranoia issues (I've seen suggested he had more severe mental disorders, but I haven't seen that confirmed for sure, and I don't want to give the indication that just because he may have had one, that was the reason for him doing this), but that's just from news reports talking to people in his life that are currently willing to speak about it. It does look like he recently had a religious conversion to Islam, and his father was from Libya, but that's it? And that's really nothing to go on. He just seemed to act on his own, and we don't *really* know why he did it yet. Everything is speculation at this point.

Actually, I stand corrected. There is just this, which is the first I've seen:

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But while Mr. Couture-Rouleau is not known to be connected to any other terrorism suspects, Mr. Bathurst said his friend [Ottawa Shooter] knew Hasibullah Yusufzai, a Vancouver-area resident who was charged in July by the RCMP with travelling to Syria with the intent of joining a deadly terrorist group.

From: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/suspected-killer-in-ottawa-shootings-had-a-disturbing-side/article21252419/ (near the end)
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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2014, 09:55:16 pm »
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I hope so too, This was a terrible, terrible thing to happen in such a nice, quiet, peaceful country, there was no reason for it what-so-ever and it makes me sad, my thoughts, prayers, and good energies be with you all!:ange:


It's a terrible thing to happen in *any* country.

The only comments I heard were people feeling bad for the man he shot. The shooter was a random crack-head street crazy that even got kicked out of a mosque in Vancouver. People aren't wondering about *terrorism*, they are wishing we had better answers as to how to deal with street crazies , to get them what they need but prevent them from getting things like guns.

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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2014, 03:54:26 pm »
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The only comments I heard were people feeling bad for the man he shot.


At my workplace, the buzz was mostly about the deceased soldier's funeral cortege, and how all the other traffic on the highway pulled over to let him pass. (Now that's Canadian.)

Also, made a pretty cool commentary on it.

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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2014, 11:42:03 am »
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At my workplace, the buzz was mostly about the deceased soldier's funeral cortege, and how all the other traffic on the highway pulled over to let him pass. (Now that's Canadian.)

Also, made a pretty cool commentary on it.
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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2014, 11:54:25 am »
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In the part of the US where I live, pulling over to let a funeral procession pass is the law.

 
Cutting into a funeral procession is not a good thing.  I have been in a car in an funeral procession and someone cut into it, and lead a number of cars somewhere other than the cemetery.
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Cutting into a funeral procession is not a good thing.  I have been in a car in an funeral procession and someone cut into it, and lead a number of cars somewhere other than the cemetery.

 
Taking a quick peek online (so, a very brief search), and it looks like we have no special laws governing funeral processions. For the most part, I almost always see people pull over and/or let one pass at an intersection, because it's considering "bad taste" not to. But all processions are required to abide by the rules of the road regardless.
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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2014, 04:35:42 pm »
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For the most part, I almost always see people pull over and/or let one pass at an intersection, because it's considering "bad taste" not to.

 
It occurs to me that I've never actually seen a funeral procession in person. Huh.

Still, it's not every day you see one on the 401.

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Re: The Attack in Canada
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2014, 05:10:06 pm »
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Taking a quick peek online (so, a very brief search), and it looks like we have no special laws governing funeral processions. For the most part, I almost always see people pull over and/or let one pass at an intersection, because it's considering "bad taste" not to. But all processions are required to abide by the rules of the road regardless.


Generally the police will not interfere (enforce traffic laws, including red lights) with a funeral procession, it the drivers that can't wait for the procession to pass that causes problems.

Most of those driving in a funeral procession do not know were they are going, so they follow the car in front of them.
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