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Author Topic: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest  (Read 2229 times)

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2012, 06:15:14 pm »
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Soo he was a Beta Zoid or what? Moron.

In elementary school a teacher actually asked me, if I wouldn't rather lend some 'nice girl books' instead of all those non-fiction books I checked out of the school library.

Oh my gods, a kid who's curious about 'things' and not interested into girly books. Call the ... dunno? Ghostbusters? WTF...

This teacher and yours, Revenant, get the FAIL award.


I had an 8th grade teacher (I was 13 years old) who didn't want to help the pretty blonde girl with math problems because she would never need algebra in her life.....but would help the boys.  Mind you, this was in 1971.  I didn't understand rate/distance/time problems until I learned to drive a few years later!
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2012, 06:37:42 pm »
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I had an 8th grade teacher (I was 13 years old) who didn't want to help the pretty blonde girl with math problems because she would never need algebra in her life.....but would help the boys.  Mind you, this was in 1971.  I didn't understand rate/distance/time problems until I learned to drive a few years later!


Such teachers ought to be hanged by their feet. :mad:
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2012, 07:05:33 pm »
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It was another layer of suck because of how Little Sage gendered herself from an early age. In elementary school I hung out with the boys and threw rocks at girls, and by the time puberty smacked me upside the face and I wasn't supposed to talk to boys anymore, I had no idea how to connect with girls. (Hell, I still don't. Gods only know how I managed to score the wonderful girlfriend I have.) I just wish there were a place for people who aren't "normal' that doesn't lead to being ostracized, or misinformed authority figures blowing whistles at windmills. (That metaphor got away from me and I don't even care.) #ThisIsWhyI'mPagan #ThisIsWhyI'mQueer

 
I was the same, I hung out with the boys until they noticed I was female. I even had a teacher try to keep me down a year because I apparently had no friends(no female ones that is). So I ended up shoved in with the girls who I desperately tried to copy since clearly I was just wrong to have fun doing boy stuff.
Got put into a girls school highschool and bumbled along there until I gave up, embraced being the other and tossed out the frustrating girly behaviour completely.

I was lucky that one of my art teachers in high school didn't push the whole being a lady thing so I ended up spending all my spare time in the art rooms.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2012, 07:15:34 pm »
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Also, may it be known for the record that there are "bomb-making chemicals" in everyone's home, if you have enough cleaning supplies.

Not to mention that common toilet cleaners can be used to make a lethal poison gas. There's a reason their labels tell you not to mix them with certain other common household liquids.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2012, 07:21:04 pm »
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I had an 8th grade teacher (I was 13 years old) who didn't want to help the pretty blonde girl with math problems because she would never need algebra in her life.....but would help the boys.

When I was in college, my intro stats class was taught by a professor who apparently thought women did not need the class. If a female asked a question about a problem, she was basically told that it is covered in the book. If a male asked the question, the professor explained things step by step on the board. Several of us must have seemed really dumb because we had a lot of questions. We'd met with the women who actually wanted to pass the class before class and find out which problems they wanted explained and ask bothe their questions and our questions.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2012, 07:24:44 pm »
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Not to mention that common toilet cleaners can be used to make a lethal poison gas. There's a reason their labels tell you not to mix them with certain other common household liquids.

 
An internet-based dj that I listen to once told a story about how he accidentally created chlorine gas when he was cleaning his bathroom.


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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2012, 08:18:26 pm »
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Having a hard time articulating this, but all this seems wrapped up in... smart-shaming, introvert-shaming, and privileging neurotypicality over anything else. As a kid, I fit the "danger" bill pretty closely. I was bullied throughout middle and high school (some physical, mostly verbal and emotional) and pretty much smarter (more well-read and with better critical thinking skills, at least) than most of my classmates as well as most of the teachers! So I often sat alone and read by myself while the teachers regularly did nothing. Instead of doing something to intervene in the life of a bullied and pretty obviously depressed kid, I was treated as the problem.

Sorry for the rant, this all just hits close to home.

 
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2012, 08:40:25 pm »
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Not to mention that common toilet cleaners can be used to make a lethal poison gas. There's a reason their labels tell you not to mix them with certain other common household liquids.

 
You mean that, they are not telling you how to make the gas?  

One building I used to live in, someone was constantly urinating in the elevator, until someone else took to putting ammonia on the floor.  The Fire Dept would wash it down, and the Police really, did not want to find, who put the ammonia on the floor.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2012, 08:49:17 pm »
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An internet-based dj that I listen to once told a story about how he accidentally created chlorine gas when he was cleaning his bathroom.

 
It's not hard!  This is like those arrest reports where they claim some activist or whatever had "materials for making Molotov cocktails"--that is, empty bottles in the recycling bin (or for brewing beer or on a shelf in the garage), gasoline or hard alcohol in the house, and cloth somewhere that could be torn into rags to make fuses.  You know, like ANYONE who has a vehicle would, or who brews beer, or who has, you know, clothes and a kitchen.  "Chemicals that could be mixed to make a bomb" are under everyone's bathroom sink, and hoo boy, if you have a lawn or a rose garden to fertilize, you're really in for it.

It's just a pretext to justify an arrest.  You make the collar and then record everything that might help a prosecution later, in court, and the newspapers get sensational about it.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2012, 09:04:22 pm »
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When I was in college, my intro stats class was taught by a professor who apparently thought women did not need the class. If a female asked a question about a problem, she was basically told that it is covered in the book. If a male asked the question, the professor explained things step by step on the board. Several of us must have seemed really dumb because we had a lot of questions. We'd met with the women who actually wanted to pass the class before class and find out which problems they wanted explained and ask bothe their questions and our questions.

 

In the book!  That was what he always said.  Hated the man.......
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« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2012, 10:07:15 pm »
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2012, 10:21:56 pm »
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This.

Quiet, artistic, and not the least bit interested in whatever fad/trend every other kid in school was interested in. In high school I actually had a teacher pull me out into the hall in the middle of class because he couldn't stand the fact that he "could never tell what I was thinking". According to him, in his 20+ years of teaching experience he always knew what the other students had on their minds but not me. Nothing quite like making an 'outsider' feel even more different. :mad:

 
I'm glad I never went through that. I was bullied in middle school for being one of the bookish kids, but you know what the other kids always thanked me for helping them. I thankfully never got bullied much in high school, not only was mine a magnet school that really disliked bullying and actually enforced athletes needing to maintain GPA's (I mean, we got picketed by Westboro Baptist for our support of LGBTQ students and our massive club for the SGBT Alliance) I didn't really have that either. It's always been a big fear my mom had though.

Honestly, it's a horrid shame that anyone "out of step" should be singled out and terrorized like any of you were in school or like this poor kid was. I really hate it. As an introverted writer who wrote death stories (I'm currently working on one from the POV of a serial killer) and was depressed for half of high school, being in an environment like that would have been awful. And honestly my mom would've went up there and tore up the place hardcore for that kind of treatment.

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2012, 10:24:09 pm »
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how about this little gem that my dad put up on facebook recently? He talks about people being blind and dumb to reality but it's like, seriously?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151214375951446&set=a.10150159086846446.293918.190824176445&type=1
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2012, 08:30:27 am »
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how about this little gem that my dad put up on facebook recently? He talks about people being blind and dumb to reality but it's like, seriously?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151214375951446&set=a.10150159086846446.293918.190824176445&type=1

Yet another weird government conspiracy theory. How do people come up with these things?
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2012, 08:40:41 am »
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Yet another weird government conspiracy theory. How do people come up with these things?

 
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