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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2012, 04:06:03 pm »
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I think if anything actually makes it harder to identify who is or is not a potential threat.


This.  I imagine the hysteria after a tragic event would be the perfect cover.

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2012, 04:06:50 pm »
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I somehow managed to get in trouble in high school over a doodle of a rabbit making nuclear weapons out of carrots.


WTF? I think that's funny. So.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2012, 04:08:49 pm »
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I was a tomboy, through and through. *nods*
Girls were... lame. And I still can't and won't bother with those games some females of the species think are needed.
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That’s what people never really understood.….Things had to balance.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2012, 04:10:22 pm »
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I think this is bull.
The people acting out their different levels of feelz through music, art or lifestyle are definitely less dangerous, than all the ones that look so very well adjusted and happy and normal, but are sleeping volcanoes.

 
Exactly.

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2012, 04:12:40 pm »
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Having a hard time articulating this, but all this seems wrapped up in... smart-shaming, introvert-shaming, and privileging neurotypicality over anything else.


*nodnodnodnod*

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As a kid, I fit the "danger" bill pretty closely. I was bullied throughout middle and high school (some physical, mostly verbal and emotional) and pretty much smarter (more well-read and with better critical thinking skills, at least) than most of my classmates as well as most of the teachers! So I often sat alone and read by myself while the teachers regularly did nothing. Instead of doing something to intervene in the life of a bullied and pretty obviously depressed kid, I was treated as the problem.

Sorry for the rant, this all just hits close to home.

 
Rant away, sounds quite familiar indeed - although I was mostly treated as invisible than actively bullied (I had too sharp a tongue for that, possibly).

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2012, 05:18:15 pm »
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*nodnodnodnod*


 
Rant away, sounds quite familiar indeed - although I was mostly treated as invisible than actively bullied (I had too sharp a tongue for that, possibly).

 
This.

Quiet, artistic, and not the least bit interested in whatever fad/trend every other kid in school was interested in. In high school I actually had a teacher pull me out into the hall in the middle of class because he couldn't stand the fact that he "could never tell what I was thinking". According to him, in his 20+ years of teaching experience he always knew what the other students had on their minds but not me. Nothing quite like making an 'outsider' feel even more different. :mad:
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2012, 05:21:18 pm »
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It was another layer of suck because of how Little Sage gendered herself from an early age. In elementary school I hung out with the boys and threw rocks at girls, and by the time puberty smacked me upside the face and I wasn't supposed to talk to boys anymore, I had no idea how to connect with girls.


YES. Same issue occured with me...not to mention the fact that right as puberty hit me my Mum began to get very bothered with my history of having mostly male friends and switched me to an ALL-GIRL school. I was left friendless for a long time. Worst years of my life.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2012, 05:22:47 pm »
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In high school I actually had a teacher pull me out into the hall in the middle of class because he couldn't stand the fact that he "could never tell what I was thinking".


Soo he was a Beta Zoid or what? Moron.

In elementary school a teacher actually asked me, if I wouldn't rather lend some 'nice girl books' instead of all those non-fiction books I checked out of the school library.

Oh my gods, a kid who's curious about 'things' and not interested into girly books. Call the ... dunno? Ghostbusters? WTF...

This teacher and yours, Revenant, get the FAIL award.
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That’s what people never really understood.….Things had to balance.
You couldn’t set out to be a good witch or a bad witch. It never worked out for long.
All you could try to be was a witch, as hard as you could.\'
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2012, 05:26:35 pm »
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In elementary school a teacher actually asked me, if I wouldn't rather lend some 'nice girl books' instead of all those non-fiction books I checked out of the school library.

 
My mom wouldn't let me read Goosebumps as a kid because I was supposed to be a "nice girl" and nice girls didn't read that. So I read Animorphs instead. Y'know, the five teenagers pitted against an alien invasion with tons of violence and philosophical treatises on the nature of war and morality?
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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2012, 05:30:18 pm »
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So I read Animorphs instead. Y'know, the five teenagers pitted against an alien invasion with tons of violence and philosophical treatises on the nature of war and morality?


*snorts*

No, I read ghoststories and I raided the 'paranormal' corner in the main library when I was around 11.

Reading was always held in high regard in our house and as long as you were hiding behind a book, my grandma actually didn't care what I read.

Thinking about it, that's a bit strange, she was rather controlling. Maybe she didn't assume, I would be able to get something not 'appropriate' out of the library or something.
\'You had to repay, good or bad. There was more than one type of obligation.
That’s what people never really understood.….Things had to balance.
You couldn’t set out to be a good witch or a bad witch. It never worked out for long.
All you could try to be was a witch, as hard as you could.\'
Terry Pratchett \'Lords and Ladies\'

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2012, 05:48:28 pm »
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*snorts*

Reading was always held in high regard in our house and as long as you were hiding behind a book, my grandma actually didn't care what I read.

 
My mom was the same way. She loved the fact that I liked to read and would come home from the store with 2-3 books for me to read every week or so. Didn't really matter what it was about...ghosts, sci-fi, fantasy...if it sounded interesting to her she'd grab it for me. (She was a wonderful person...I miss her terribly :( )
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2012, 05:50:44 pm »
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(She was a wonderful person...I miss her terribly :( )


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That’s what people never really understood.….Things had to balance.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2012, 05:52:10 pm »
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My mom was the same way. She loved the fact that I liked to read and would come home from the store with 2-3 books for me to read every week or so. Didn't really matter what it was about...ghosts, sci-fi, fantasy...if it sounded interesting to her she'd grab it for me. (She was a wonderful person...I miss her terribly :( )

 
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2012, 05:55:23 pm »
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Having a hard time articulating this, but all this seems wrapped up in... smart-shaming, introvert-shaming, and privileging neurotypicality over anything else.


Exactly.  I couldn't quite articulate what it is about post-school-shooting situations that hit my triggers (pun most certainly not intended for once), but you managed to sum it up nicely.

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As a kid, I fit the "danger" bill pretty closely. I was bullied throughout middle and high school (some physical, mostly verbal and emotional) and pretty much smarter (more well-read and with better critical thinking skills, at least) than most of my classmates as well as most of the teachers! So I often sat alone and read by myself while the teachers regularly did nothing. Instead of doing something to intervene in the life of a bullied and pretty obviously depressed kid, I was treated as the problem.

Sorry for the rant, this all just hits close to home.

 
I had to switch schools in my freshman year of high school because someone started a rumor that I was going to shoot it up.  Believe me, I understand completely.


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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2012, 06:09:53 pm »
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Oh, crap.  I completely forgot about my 10-pound bucket of lye for CP soap!  And some of those essential oils have very low flash points!  BOOM!

Seriously, though, this is exactly the kind of crap that went on after Columbine.  Every quiet, weird kid was scrutinized for antisocial behavior...while the jocks were shoving them in lockers with impunity.

I'd say I hate everyone right now, but that's Mad Bomber talk!

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