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Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« on: December 29, 2012, 03:14:48 pm »
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When a 16-year-old New Jersey boy doodled in his notebook on Tuesday, December 18, he probably didn’t expect to be arrested by the end of the day. However, when school officials saw the sketches, which they state appeared to be of weapons, and the boy “demonstrated behavior that caused them to be concerned,” the police were called.


The drawings in question? A glove covered in flames.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 03:15:39 pm »
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From the Comic Book Legal Defense League:
The drawings in question? A glove covered in flames.


What?!

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 03:18:53 pm »
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What?!

 
It gets better. (Apologies for linking to a Fox news local station, it's all I can find.) When they searched his house they found:

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electronic parts and several chemicals that when mixed together could cause an explosion. Investigators stressed  there was no threat or danger to the school or anyone else. The school was thoroughly searched, nothing was found.


Electronic parts. Cause the kid was a tinkerer and liked taking old things apart and putting them back together. Also, may it be known for the record that there are "bomb-making chemicals" in everyone's home, if you have enough cleaning supplies.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 03:24:01 pm »
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Electronic parts. Cause the kid was a tinkerer and liked taking old things apart and putting them back together. Also, may it be known for the record that there are "bomb-making chemicals" in everyone's home, if you have enough cleaning supplies.


I have a couple gallon jugs of industrial ammonia which I use to extract plant pigments for dyeing wool, and our bedroom is lousy with dismembered electronics courtesy of my husband's tinkering addiction.  I should probably get dressed for when the Feds bust in.  :rolleye::

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 03:25:08 pm »
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I have a couple gallon jugs of industrial ammonia which I use to extract plant pigments for dyeing wool, and our bedroom is lousy with dismembered electronics courtesy of my husband's tinkering addiction.  I should probably get dressed for when the Feds bust in.  :rolleye::

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My friend was trying to figure out cold-processing soap all by herself and was asking around local hardware stores about buying a significant amount of lye, I think. (Or was it bleach? Can't remember.) The store owner came really damn close to calling the cops on her.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 03:28:22 pm »
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My friend was trying to figure out cold-processing soap all by herself and was asking around local hardware stores about buying a significant amount of lye, I think. (Or was it bleach? Can't remember.) The store owner came really damn close to calling the cops on her.


Oh, crap.  I completely forgot about my 10-pound bucket of lye for CP soap!  And some of those essential oils have very low flash points!  BOOM!

Seriously, though, this is exactly the kind of crap that went on after Columbine.  Every quiet, weird kid was scrutinized for antisocial behavior...while the jocks were shoving them in lockers with impunity.

I'd say I hate everyone right now, but that's Mad Bomber talk!

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 03:28:53 pm »
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My friend was trying to figure out cold-processing soap all by herself and was asking around local hardware stores about buying a significant amount of lye, I think. (Or was it bleach? Can't remember.) The store owner came really damn close to calling the cops on her.


It's lye you need for that kinda soap.
And... :eek:

See, it will be very soon, that you are only considered not a possible criminal or terrorist, if you are too damned stupid to do anything more than consuming mass media and buying things you can consume without doing anything to them.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2012, 03:30:51 pm »
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Seriously, though, this is exactly the kind of crap that went on after Columbine.  Every quiet, weird kid was scrutinized for antisocial behavior...while the jocks were shoving them in lockers with impunity.

 
I was at a summer camp type thing in the summer of 2007, just a few months after the Tech shootings, and we all got handouts on "how to spot trouble behavior." One of them was "writing sad or depressed poetry, or creating dark art."
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2012, 03:37:19 pm »
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 One of them was "writing sad or depressed poetry, or creating dark art."


Yes because writing is so not an outlet for feeling bad, that helps you staying sane....
\'You had to repay, good or bad. There was more than one type of obligation.
That’s what people never really understood.….Things had to balance.
You couldn’t set out to be a good witch or a bad witch. It never worked out for long.
All you could try to be was a witch, as hard as you could.\'
Terry Pratchett \'Lords and Ladies\'

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2012, 03:41:41 pm »
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I was at a summer camp type thing in the summer of 2007, just a few months after the Tech shootings, and we all got handouts on "how to spot trouble behavior." One of them was "writing sad or depressed poetry, or creating dark art."

 
Almost all of my creative output could fit into the category of "dark art" and I'm an introvert dressing mostly in black. I'd be easily put into suspect category.

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2012, 03:45:42 pm »
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Almost all of my creative output could fit into the category of "dark art" and I'm an introvert dressing mostly in black. I'd be easily put into suspect category.

 
I think this is bull.
The people acting out their different levels of feelz through music, art or lifestyle are definitely less dangerous, than all the ones that look so very well adjusted and happy and normal, but are sleeping volcanoes.
\'You had to repay, good or bad. There was more than one type of obligation.
That’s what people never really understood.….Things had to balance.
You couldn’t set out to be a good witch or a bad witch. It never worked out for long.
All you could try to be was a witch, as hard as you could.\'
Terry Pratchett \'Lords and Ladies\'

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2012, 03:50:00 pm »
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I think this is bull.
The people acting out their different levels of feelz through music, art or lifestyle are definitely less dangerous, than all the ones that look so very well adjusted and happy and normal, but are sleeping volcanoes.

 
Having a hard time articulating this, but all this seems wrapped up in... smart-shaming, introvert-shaming, and privileging neurotypicality over anything else. As a kid, I fit the "danger" bill pretty closely. I was bullied throughout middle and high school (some physical, mostly verbal and emotional) and pretty much smarter (more well-read and with better critical thinking skills, at least) than most of my classmates as well as most of the teachers! So I often sat alone and read by myself while the teachers regularly did nothing. Instead of doing something to intervene in the life of a bullied and pretty obviously depressed kid, I was treated as the problem.

Sorry for the rant, this all just hits close to home.
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2012, 03:56:58 pm »
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Sorry for the rant, this all just hits close to home.


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Guess who had a pretty similar school life?

It is the marginalization of someone being 'other' than the other kids.
You don't meet the expectations, you don't have blonde pig tails and pink skirts and aren't happily babbling about Barbie dolls - you are different.

You feel awkward around others, you're happy with a book, rather than 'hanging out with the gang' - you are strange.

Different and strange and knowing more than you should? Hell, there must be something so very wrong with you, no?
\'You had to repay, good or bad. There was more than one type of obligation.
That’s what people never really understood.….Things had to balance.
You couldn’t set out to be a good witch or a bad witch. It never worked out for long.
All you could try to be was a witch, as hard as you could.\'
Terry Pratchett \'Lords and Ladies\'

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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2012, 04:00:15 pm »
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*pats sage's arm in understanding*
Guess who had a pretty similar school life?


I'm sorry we understand each other in that regard. /hugs

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It is the marginalization of someone being 'other' than the other kids.
You don't meet the expectations, you don't have blonde pig tails and pink skirts and aren't happily babbling about Barbie dolls - you are different.

You feel awkward around others, you're happy with a book, rather than 'hanging out with the gang' - you are strange.

Different and strange and knowing more than you should? Hell, there must be something so very wrong with you, no?

 
It was another layer of suck because of how Little Sage gendered herself from an early age. In elementary school I hung out with the boys and threw rocks at girls, and by the time puberty smacked me upside the face and I wasn't supposed to talk to boys anymore, I had no idea how to connect with girls. (Hell, I still don't. Gods only know how I managed to score the wonderful girlfriend I have.) I just wish there were a place for people who aren't "normal' that doesn't lead to being ostracized, or misinformed authority figures blowing whistles at windmills. (That metaphor got away from me and I don't even care.) #ThisIsWhyI'mPagan #ThisIsWhyI'mQueer
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Re: Doodles Lead to New Jersey Student’s Arrest
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2012, 04:04:20 pm »
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The drawings in question? A glove covered in flames.

 
Adding my voice to the others saying this hits kinda close to home.  I somehow managed to get in trouble in high school over a doodle of a rabbit making nuclear weapons out of carrots.  (I still don't understand how anyone in their right mind could interpret that as an actual threat.)  It feels like everyone's response to the admittedly very high number of school shootings is to become as paranoid as possible, which I think if anything actually makes it harder to identify who is or is not a potential threat.

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