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Jesus And The Grail Connection
« on: August 29, 2019, 10:30:25 pm »
I have been fascinated since my youth with some ideas of the lost years of Jesus, especially the legend that Jesus came to Britain in his youth. This legend developed in the medieval period and was later made famous by William Blake's Poem "And did those feet in ancient time", also known as the hymn "Jerusalem"

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_time )

Part of this apocryphal medieval legend linked Jesus to Arthurian mythos through Joseph of Arimathea, the man responsible for Jesus' burial in the Gospels. In the legend, Joseph of Arimathea appeared in Britain as a tin merchant and was the first keeper of the Holy Grail. The Grail itself can be viewed as a Christian symbol as the Cup of Christ, but also as a Pagan symbol derived and adapted from supernatural Cauldrons present in Celtic mythology. In the legend, Joseph of Arimathea was a sort of patron or foster father to young Jesus, when Jesus appeared in Britain.
 
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unknown_years_of_Jesus#Claims_of_young_Jesus_in_Britain )

The idea of the presence of Jesus in Celtic Britain and the fusion of Christian elements and Pagan elements in Arthuriana has always sparked my imagination. I have for a long time been an enthusiast of Medieval material in general and Arthurian matter in particular. The unique fusion of Christian and Celtic motifs and symbols in Arthurian legend has always inspired me. Some people have suggested that the Arthurian Legend provides a context for a sort of Celtic Christian Mystery Religion. It has also sparked in me a desire to understand pre-Christian Celtic Mythology as well, which has led me to look at the Celtic Recon stuff more closely also.

Anyway, I just wanted to post a bit about this topic since it has been a part of my background for a long time. I am assuming that many people here might be familiar with all of this, so I would welcome any comments or insights on the subject. The legendary connection between Christ, the Grail, and Arthur means something to me.




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Re: Jesus And The Grail Connection
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2019, 04:02:17 pm »
The idea of the presence of Jesus in Celtic Britain and the fusion of Christian elements and Pagan elements in Arthuriana has always sparked my imagination. I have for a long time been an enthusiast of Medieval material in general and Arthurian matter in particular. The unique fusion of Christian and Celtic motifs and symbols in Arthurian legend has always inspired me. Some people have suggested that the Arthurian Legend provides a context for a sort of Celtic Christian Mystery Religion. It has also sparked in me a desire to understand pre-Christian Celtic Mythology as well, which has led me to look at the Celtic Recon stuff more closely also.

Anyway, I just wanted to post a bit about this topic since it has been a part of my background for a long time. I am assuming that many people here might be familiar with all of this, so I would welcome any comments or insights on the subject. The legendary connection between Christ, the Grail, and Arthur means something to me.

So part of my interest in this topic is a desire to integrate a view of Jesus as a Pagan Jesus, particularly in a Celtic context. Most Pagans do not see a need for Salvation as they do not believe in Original Sin. They do not hold the idea that Humankind is somehow fundamentally flawed and living in a Fallen World. This is part of what has drawn me to the Pagan perspective. That humanity and the world are not sick, evil, or flawed, but are rather beautiful, whole, and interconnected. So I reject the Christian idea that humanity and the world are fundamentally flawed and need salvation and correction. I embrace the Pagan idea that humankind and the world are whole and beautiful.

Where does my view of Jesus come into this perspective? I am still working on that for myself, but the main aspects of Jesus that seem relevant to me is that Jesus is a Healer who drives out sickness and evil and replaces it with wholeness, wellness, and blessedness. I can see Jesus as a Pagan healer god, and feel that there might be an association between Jesus and Dian Cecht, the Irish healing god, for example. The Grail Myth seems to me to be partly about this- healing, making the wounded King whole again. Part of the Pagan aspect of the Grail Myth is reconnecting the King to the Sovereign Goddess, to the Earth, and reviving Nature to wholeness. So maybe a Pagan Jesus could be understood in this context.

Those are a few initial ideas. This is a topic that I will probably return to as I study and learn more.

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