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Author Topic: Christians with Pagan Leanings: Why still Christian?  (Read 1712 times)

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Re: Christians with Pagan Leanings: Why still Christian?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2019, 05:34:31 pm »
I am a Cultural Christian, that is I view myself as someone who was formed in Western Civilization and Christianity is a cornerstone of that. I am not a conventional Christian though.

My views are Universalism mixed with Paganism and other elements. I am also a Scientific Pantheist and a Religious Humanist. As a Humanist, I embrace the varieties of Human Culture and the diversity of religions in that culture.

Also, I was raised Catholic. My religious views are syncretic and universal. I view all the different manifestations of God/Goddess as incarnations or personifications of the sacred. God wears many masks and is mysterious.

I engage in what I call Creative Spirituality, which is basically me making up my own personal religious views. I am a polytheist who views Christ as a sort of "first amongst equals" in the god sphere.

More specifically, my main preference when looking at manifestations of the divine is eclectic spirituality. I am a sort of Celtic Pagan Christian. I look at pagan aspects of Christianity (Christ as a living and dying God, flesh of bread, blood of wine). I also try and integrate Christ into the Celtic Pantheon as the White God, a Prince amongst gods and goddesses.

I identify with that period in history when the Celtic Pagans were being converted to Christianity. Rather than give up their Pagan beliefs and embracing an alien religion, they integrated Christ into their existing religion.

So, I am polytheist but also recognize that God and the Goddess wear many different masks. God is essentially mysterious, and Christ is sort of a Prince amongst Gods, first amongst many.

I would also note that a lot of the above is Unverified Personal Gnosis. A lot of my personal religious views spring from imagination and abstract reasoning versus more realistic cultural reconstruction.

So this stuff arises more out of my consciousness rather than hard information out of history or folklore. I use the term "creative spirituality" to describe it. It is imaginative material that works for me but is subjective and personal, not objectively verifiable.

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Re: Christians with Pagan Leanings: Why still Christian?
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2019, 05:04:10 pm »
I identify with that period in history when the Celtic Pagans were being converted to Christianity. Rather than give up their Pagan beliefs and embracing an alien religion, they integrated Christ into their existing religion.

So, I am polytheist but also recognize that God and the Goddess wear many different masks. God is essentially mysterious, and Christ is sort of a Prince amongst Gods, first amongst many.

This is an approach I've contemplated myself believe it or not. Are you a fan of C.S. Lewis by any chance? This approach reminds me a bit of the scene in Prince Caspian where Bacchus and his girls feast with Aslan. 

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Re: Christians with Pagan Leanings: Why still Christian?
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2019, 05:48:56 pm »
This is an approach I've contemplated myself believe it or not. Are you a fan of C.S. Lewis by any chance? This approach reminds me a bit of the scene in Prince Caspian where Bacchus and his girls feast with Aslan.

I read the Narnia books a long, long time ago, but do not remember the scene you describe. I was a big Tolkien fan in my childhood, so I remember C.S. Lewis as Tolkien's friend and colleague. I never read Lewis' non-fiction books about Christianity, but have heard second hand that he was an important writer about Christianity.

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Re: Christians with Pagan Leanings: Why still Christian?
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2019, 11:45:21 pm »
I am a Cultural Christian, that is I view myself as someone who was formed in Western Civilization and Christianity is a cornerstone of that. I am not a conventional Christian though.

My views are Universalism mixed with Paganism and other elements. I am also a Scientific Pantheist and a Religious Humanist. As a Humanist, I embrace the varieties of Human Culture and the diversity of religions in that culture.

Also, I was raised Catholic. My religious views are syncretic and universal. I view all the different manifestations of God/Goddess as incarnations or personifications of the sacred. God wears many masks and is mysterious.

I engage in what I call Creative Spirituality, which is basically me making up my own personal religious views. I am a polytheist who views Christ as a sort of "first amongst equals" in the god sphere.

More specifically, my main preference when looking at manifestations of the divine is eclectic spirituality. I am a sort of Celtic Pagan Christian. I look at pagan aspects of Christianity (Christ as a living and dying God, flesh of bread, blood of wine). I also try and integrate Christ into the Celtic Pantheon as the White God, a Prince amongst gods and goddesses.

I identify with that period in history when the Celtic Pagans were being converted to Christianity. Rather than give up their Pagan beliefs and embracing an alien religion, they integrated Christ into their existing religion.

So, I am polytheist but also recognize that God and the Goddess wear many different masks. God is essentially mysterious, and Christ is sort of a Prince amongst Gods, first amongst many.

I thought that I would comment here again as the above post crystalizes my current views pretty well. I would say that I am trying to put Christ into a more Pagan context or perspective rather than the other way around.

So I am not a Christian with Pagan leanings; I am a Pagan trying to bring Christ into my Paganism, if that makes any sense. This is still very much a work in progress for me, and there is a lot more to do. Hopefully I will learn more and come to better understanding of both Christ and my Nature Religion/Pagan Views.

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Re: Christians with Pagan Leanings: Why still Christian?
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2019, 05:50:18 pm »
I thought that I would comment here again as the above post crystalizes my current views pretty well. I would say that I am trying to put Christ into a more Pagan context or perspective rather than the other way around.

So I am not a Christian with Pagan leanings; I am a Pagan trying to bring Christ into my Paganism, if that makes any sense. This is still very much a work in progress for me, and there is a lot more to do. Hopefully I will learn more and come to better understanding of both Christ and my Nature Religion/Pagan Views.

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So I thought that I would comment further here on the fact that I am a developing Christian Pagan.

I wanted to be honest about it and upfront. I have met some people who describe themselves as Pagan that take offense at Christ being involved in Pagan beliefs and practices. I did not want to hide the fact of what I believe. I also do not want to be problematic to people who have some issues with at least the idea of Christ.

I know that some people who have embraced different types of Paganisms have come from restrictive religious backgrounds, often Christianity. Some of them partly got into their own type of Paganism to get away from that. This sometimes means getting away from Christ.

Also, I know that a lot (most) of different kinds of Paganisms have absolutely nothing to do with Christ. I want to respect those people's beliefs and boundaries as well.

I have gone through phases in my beliefs where I thought I was done with Christianity. It turns out that I may be done with *some* of Christianity, but not with Christ himself.

Where I am at now is a sort of developing Paganism that recognizes many gods, goddesses, ancestors and spirits, but includes Christ as a god in this Pagan scheme. So, a Pagan that believes in Christ, a Christian Pagan.

I hope that my expression of this belief does not rub up against too many people here. I just wanted to be open and truthful about it, because I did not want to present myself here on the Cauldron Forums as anything other than what I am- a Christian Pagan.

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