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Short version: if you dig too deep too fast in building your Mysteries and find yourself possibly in the crossfire of a long-standing feud between Powers, what are some good ways of extracting yourself enough to preserve your sanity?

Okay, here's the full version.

In recent months I've started on a project to reconstruct aspects of ancient Greek mystery religion and, more dauntingly, Minoan ecstatic cult as a ritual context for gender transition in the modern age. This has been an interesting journey, but as a result I seem to have put myself square in the middle of an ancient family feud between two potentially wrathful deities (I suppose those last three words are kind of a tautology): an agricultural grain goddess of law and order* and a chthonian vine-god of wilderness and wild things**.

If I've gauged the situation correctly, this has been bad for both the progress of the work and my health--I'm stalled with doubts and worry over the moral and social rectitude of all my work, and my consumption of beer and wine keeps escalating (which, this isn't new, the gods didn't give me a drinking problem out of nowhere, but I doubt this particular heavenly grudge match is helping it).

What kind of workings and practices might help navigate this kind of situation safely?

* Some kind of intersection of Demeter with Hera and Hathor-Sekhmet.
** Dionysos Chthonios/Hades Mystes.
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Re: Boundary-setting with gods, or extricating yourself from a divine feud
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2016, 07:37:17 am »
Quote from: Eastling;194721
What kind of workings and practices might help navigate this kind of situation safely?


Without more information, it's hard to say. Can you simply back away from interacting so closely with these particular deities? Do you need to interact with both of them? Things like that.
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Re: Boundary-setting with gods, or extricating yourself from a divine feud
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2016, 09:54:11 am »
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Without more information, it's hard to say. Can you simply back away from interacting so closely with these particular deities? Do you need to interact with both of them? Things like that.

 
To provide a little more information: I came at this via Dionysos telling me to go reconstruct Ariadne. I eventually realized this meant dealing with a Minoan goddess related to Isis/Aset and Persephone. But through my research into Greek mystery religion I met this Demeter figure as well and realized she was also a part of the Mystery framework, although less personally connected to me than the other two. Since then I've been struggling with how to balance the three of them, especially Dionysos vs. Demeter, in a way that's both fair and true to the vision I'm working with.

It's possible she feels her position in the mythos is less secure than the other two and is lashing out as a result...I don't know. I plan on doing some divination when I get home from work today.
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