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Holiness
« on: June 25, 2019, 05:27:40 pm »
I was having a discussion with a friend about the meaning of the term "holy," and we concur that it in part means someone that is "set apart" or "separate."  Similarly, the term "sacred" often involves objects or places set apart for religious purposes.  My Christian friend's understanding is that God is holy in that God is transcendent and "set apart" or "separate" in that sense.  In his view everything in the universe is holy, but only insofar as those things point toward and partake of the transcendence underlying reality.

I was searching the Internet to get a feel for how pantheists describe their relationship to Reality, and I come across descriptions of the whole of reality as sacred, but reality as a whole is not set apart from anything, so the language is evolving or being used in a different sense.

I tend to think of the whole of reality as sacred in the sense that it induces awe in me and it underlies everything in my life that is particular and set apart and which I cherish and value.  It is the basis of what is sacred to me.  Perhaps it is not the best word, but that is the one I use to describe my response to Reality.

In a part of my prayers I sum it up thus: "No one is holy!  Everyone is holy!  Nothing is sacred!  Everything is sacred!"  In other words, I respond to reality the way people have responded to what is considered set apart, transcendent, holy, or sacred, even though the whole of reality is not itself in my view necessarily set apart from anything.

In the following link are lyrics by Peter Mayer that capture how I feel.

https://www.lyricsmania.com/holy_now_lyrics_peter_mayer.html

Do the terms "holy" or "sacred" mean anything to you in your path?
My personal moral code:

Love wisely, and do what thou wilt.

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Re: Holiness
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2019, 05:37:40 pm »
I was having a discussion with a friend about the meaning of the term "holy," and we concur that it in part means someone that is "set apart" or "separate."  Similarly, the term "sacred" often involves objects or places set apart for religious purposes.  My Christian friend's understanding is that God is holy in that God is transcendent and "set apart" or "separate" in that sense.  In his view everything in the universe is holy, but only insofar as those things point toward and partake of the transcendence underlying reality.

I was searching the Internet to get a feel for how pantheists describe their relationship to Reality, and I come across descriptions of the whole of reality as sacred, but reality as a whole is not set apart from anything, so the language is evolving or being used in a different sense.

I tend to think of the whole of reality as sacred in the sense that it induces awe in me and it underlies everything in my life that is particular and set apart and which I cherish and value.  It is the basis of what is sacred to me.  Perhaps it is not the best word, but that is the one I use to describe my response to Reality.

In a part of my prayers I sum it up thus: "No one is holy!  Everyone is holy!  Nothing is sacred!  Everything is sacred!"  In other words, I respond to reality the way people have responded to what is considered set apart, transcendent, holy, or sacred, even though the whole of reality is not itself in my view necessarily set apart from anything.

In the following link are lyrics by Peter Mayer that capture how I feel.

https://www.lyricsmania.com/holy_now_lyrics_peter_mayer.html

Do the terms "holy" or "sacred" mean anything to you in your path?

This article explains one pantheist take on what "sacred" means.  In this context it has more to do with one's subjective response rather than its "essence" or attributes:

https://www.singingtotheplants.com/2007/12/pantheism/
My personal moral code:

Love wisely, and do what thou wilt.

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