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Re: Sex and the Sacred
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2011, 08:08:26 am »
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I've always been curious about floggers, but I'm such a wuss when it comes to certain kinds of pain. People poke me and I scream, but I can take IVs like a champ. I've been to the hospital for operations on my legs and eyes  (nothing too serious).

But of course, if you like them, go nuts! I trust you know what sort of intensity works for you. This thread is a kink-friendly space! :D


Like Darkhawk mentioned, different floggers have different sensations.  F'ex, a flogger with suede or light leather tails will be less "thuddy" than one with thick leather tails.  Some places use a scale of 1 to 10 for impact (1=velvety soft; 10 = very heavy thud).

The heavier ones are often made of moose-,buffalo-, or bullhide-...OK, I'll stop now.  :o
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Re: Sex and the Sacred
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2011, 08:13:25 am »
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I'm not going to start off by saying that 'all sex is sacred" because I'm not sure that applies to every situation...


I tend to think the 'all sex is sacred' POV tends to get turned into 'OMG everyone should make love with everybody and it is soooo beautiful OMG'.  Not that sex cannot be beautiful, or sacred, but we get out of it what we put into it.  Sacred sex (IMO) would need the people involved to be of the same mindset - all participants would need to be attempting for sacredness.

Also, sex doesn't *need* to be sacred all of the time; there can be as much joy in a random encounter as there is between committed parties.
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Re: Sex and the Sacred
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2011, 09:30:29 am »
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I tend to think the 'all sex is sacred' POV tends to get turned into 'OMG everyone should make love with everybody and it is soooo beautiful OMG'.  Not that sex cannot be beautiful, or sacred, but we get out of it what we put into it.  Sacred sex (IMO) would need the people involved to be of the same mindset - all participants would need to be attempting for sacredness.


*snerks*

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Also, sex doesn't *need* to be sacred all of the time; there can be as much joy in a random encounter as there is between committed parties.


Yeah, I should have included that in my original post. Sometimes people just have chemistry with each other and things go from there. Sometimes sex is just fun, but fun and sacredness aren't mutually exclusive, either.
 
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The heavier ones are often made of moose-,buffalo-, or bullhide-...OK, I'll stop now.


I didn't say stop! Green! Green! Green!** :P /brat
Seriously, I'd heard of bullhide, but moose? buffalo? Interesting...

**For those who aren't corrupted by teh kink in the know, "Green" is a word that is sometimes used during a scene to indicate things like: "Keep doing this!" "I'm fine," or even "MOAR PLZ!" You know, like traffic lights?

....I was just trying to make a joke.

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Re: Sex and the Sacred
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2011, 09:35:13 am »
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*snerks*



Yeah, I should have included that in my original post. Sometimes people just have chemistry with each other and things go from there. Sometimes sex is just fun, but fun and sacredness aren't mutually exclusive, either.
 


I will occasionally dedicate fun sex to Pan. If I can remember to focus in that direction at the time.

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I didn't say stop! Green! Green! Green!** :P /brat
Seriously, I'd heard of bullhide, but moose? buffalo? Interesting...

**For those who aren't corrupted by teh kink in the know, "Green" is a word that is sometimes used during a scene to indicate things like: "Keep doing this!" "I'm fine," or even "MOAR PLZ!" You know, like traffic lights?

....I was just trying to make a joke.

 
My inner nerd is desperately wanting to respond with "purple!" Maybe it needs flogging.
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Re: Sex and the Sacred
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2011, 10:43:23 am »
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How many have sexuality as part of their actual spiritual practice? I've only really heard the Wicca-ish side of this topic. Feri is a word that comes to mind, but I (embarrassingly) don't know precisely what that is.

 
Feri is a different tradition of religious witchcraft.  Part of it works with that life/sex/death current that Morag described a few posts back.

In theory, sexuality is part of my personal stuff.  In practice, grad school has eaten the relevant partner's brain and I'm really kind of cranky.
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Re: Sex and the Sacred
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2011, 11:34:21 am »
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My inner nerd is desperately wanting to respond with "purple!" Maybe it needs flogging.


My first thought was: "Does purple mean 'do something random'?" I don't know if I'd ever use it in that case!

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Re: Sex and the Sacred
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2011, 01:49:30 pm »
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My first thought was: "Does purple mean 'do something random'?" I don't know if I'd ever use it in that case!

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilizations_in_Babylon_5 see the entry on Drazi.
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Re: Sex and the Sacred
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2011, 03:39:16 pm »
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My inner nerd is desperately wanting to respond with "purple!" Maybe it needs flogging.

 
:thup: NAh, +5 to you for bringing B5 together with kink.  That just rules.
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Re: Sex and the Sacred
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2011, 11:16:48 pm »
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**For those who aren't corrupted by teh kink in the know, "Green" is a word that is sometimes used during a scene to indicate things like: "Keep doing this!" "I'm fine," or even "MOAR PLZ!" You know, like traffic lights?

....I was just trying to make a joke.

 
A friend of mine once called "Orange" in a scene. Generally we just use the yellow/red system, so everything stopped for a moment as we tried to puzzle out what ze meant. Turns out ze didn't even know what ze meant.
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Re: Sex and the Sacred
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2011, 11:28:06 pm »
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A friend of mine once called "Orange" in a scene. Generally we just use the yellow/red system, so everything stopped for a moment as we tried to puzzle out what ze meant. Turns out ze didn't even know what ze meant.

 
I can see getting a little...confused...and shouting out whatever colour comes to mind. Maybe orange means "either slow down or this scene is OVER!" :P

I can see myself doing that: "ORANGE! Er, RED! Why did I just say orange!?"

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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2011, 08:59:53 am »
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I can see getting a little...confused...and shouting out whatever colour comes to mind. Maybe orange means "either slow down or this scene is OVER!" :P

I can see myself doing that: "ORANGE! Er, RED! Why did I just say orange!?"


ORANGE you glad you didn't say banana?

*hangs head* I couldn't resist.
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Re: Sex and the Sacred
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2011, 02:51:17 pm »
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ORANGE you glad you didn't say banana?

*hangs head* I couldn't resist.

 
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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2011, 06:44:59 pm »
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Sex. Can be sacred. Can be profane. Can be neither. Most things aren't inherently sacred. They have to be made sacred. They're made sacred by our actions and intent. So what's sacred for me would probably be profane for someone else.

 
I more or less agree with this.

For me, the sanctity isn't really in the "insert tab A into slot B" aspect of things, but in the physical and emotional enjoyment that results. To make an analogy, you don't hear a lot of people saying that "eating is sacred," but there are many pre-Christian notions of sanctity or ritual surrounding the growing and harvesting of food (or in the hunting of food), because it's such an important aspect of life and living. Maybe we don't all like wheat bread or venison, but we translate these ideas into our lives in other ways, looking for ways to re-invest those ideas of sanctity where we didn't have them before. I think the same can easily be done with sex.

(Personally, I rather lament the fact that deities of love and sex are not as popular among modern pagans as are deities of fertility. But of course, I say this as someone who worships a love god. :whis:)

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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2011, 07:22:29 pm »
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(Personally, I rather lament the fact that deities of love and sex are not as popular among modern pagans as are deities of fertility. But of course, I say this as someone who worships a love god. :whis:)


I find this amusing as someone who can't get enough of deities of love, lust, sex and/or fertility (but they aren't necessarily focused on fertility all the time).

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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2011, 08:24:06 pm »
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I find this amusing as someone who can't get enough of deities of love, lust, sex and/or fertility (but they aren't necessarily focused on fertility all the time).

 
Right on. I know there are more of us out there...it just seems like we're so heavily outnumbered sometimes!

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