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Author Topic: Oh my....*what goes in this spot?* (Totally random question!)  (Read 4707 times)

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So something just struck me as my two cats just randomly tore across my apartment and  then paused to knock a couple of vases over intentionally (both vases and cats are unharmed). I was so amused yet horrified that I cried out "you are so mean! oh my GOD!"

I'm a polytheist. I usually make a point of saying "Oh my gods!" instead, however, it hit me that I really only worship one deity, and therefore, when I say "oh my god!" I could just as well be referring to Sarasvati...she seems to be amused by this.

Totally random observation. Please chime in with your own. Do you say "oh my gods" or what? Do you understand "oh my God!" to mean uppercase-G G-D? Or just any god, or even maybe your personal patron god? Or is it just an expression?

Am I overthinking this???? It's just....Words Mean Things!!!!:eek:
« Last Edit: May 25, 2014, 09:34:20 am by Redfaery »
KARMA: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Re: Oh my....*what goes in this spot?* (Totally random question!)
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2014, 09:40:35 am »
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So something just struck me as my two cats just randomly tore across my apartment and  then paused to knock a couple of vases over intentionally (both vases and cats are unharmed). I was so amused yet horrified that I cried out "you are so mean! oh my GOD!"

I'm a polytheist. I usually make a point of saying "Oh my gods!" instead, however, it hit me that I really only worship one deity, and therefore, when I say "oh my god!" I could just as well be referring to Sarasvati...she seems to be amused by this.

Totally random observation. Please chime in with your own. Do you say "oh my gods" or what? Do you understand "oh my God!" to mean uppercase-G G-D?

Am I overthinking this???? It's just....Words Mean Things!!!!:eek:

 

I've often wondered this myself. What goes in that spot?

Cultural swearing, in the case of this thread it's Pagan culture, has long being of interest to me. I have a copy of Holy Sh*t: A Brief History of Swearing by Melissa Mohr on my shelf, but I haven't had time to read it yet.

Relatedly, I've caught myself exclaiming "Great maker!" (yes, read that in Londo's voice) when, in fact, I don't believe in a creation deity...or any particular deity, for that matter. Yeah, I don't even know.
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Re: Oh my....*what goes in this spot?* (Totally random question!)
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2014, 09:45:31 am »
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Totally random observation. Please chime in with your own. Do you say "oh my gods" or what? Do you understand "oh my God!" to mean uppercase-G G-D? Or just any god, or even maybe your personal patron god? Or is it just an expression?

Am I overthinking this???? It's just....Words Mean Things!!!!:eek:


I say both, tbh, though I tend to use 'gods' a little more these days. I don't know if I necessarily mean any particular god when I invoke 'oh my god'; I see it as a linguistic relic of my religious upbringing. It just means '(a) god' now, to me at least. Old habits die hard.
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Re: Oh my....*what goes in this spot?* (Totally random question!)
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2014, 12:20:53 pm »
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I've often wondered this myself. What goes in that spot?

Cultural swearing, in the case of this thread it's Pagan culture, has long being of interest to me. I have a copy of Holy Sh*t: A Brief History of Swearing by Melissa Mohr on my shelf, but I haven't had time to read it yet.

Relatedly, I've caught myself exclaiming "Great maker!" (yes, read that in Londo's voice) when, in fact, I don't believe in a creation deity...or any particular deity, for that matter. Yeah, I don't even know.


Total pop culture ignoramus here. No idea what that reference means.

By the way, have you read Wicked Words by...Hugh Rawson I believe? It's basically an encyclopedia of "bad words" and has lots of interesting stuff about how certain words came to be used, especially various slurs and epithets (for example, many homophobic slurs were first used to slut-shame sexually active women.)
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Re: Oh my....*what goes in this spot?* (Totally random question!)
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2014, 12:25:38 pm »
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I say both, tbh, though I tend to use 'gods' a little more these days. I don't know if I necessarily mean any particular god when I invoke 'oh my god'; I see it as a linguistic relic of my religious upbringing. It just means '(a) god' now, to me at least. Old habits die hard.

I actually started saying "gods" because I couldn't shake the legacy of my Catholic upbringing that "Oh my god" was specifically "Oh my G-d." But honestly, "gods" always felt kind of contrived. I think I'm going to go back to "Oh my god," because for me, I'm referring to one deity when I say it. I could say "oh my goddess!" but that would feel equally contrived, because I'm not referring to a capital-G Goddess in the Wiccish sense.

So I'm going to let myself slip back into saying "oh my god!" except this time I'm not invoking YHWH, but Sarasvati.

I was never someone to say "Jesus Christ!" even when I was Christian, so that hasn't been a problem.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2014, 12:26:45 pm by Redfaery »
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Re: Oh my....*what goes in this spot?* (Totally random question!)
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2014, 01:34:47 pm »
Quote from: Redfaery;148445
So something just struck me as my two cats just randomly tore across my apartment and  then paused to knock a couple of vases over intentionally (both vases and cats are unharmed). I was so amused yet horrified that I cried out "you are so mean! oh my GOD!"

I'm a polytheist. I usually make a point of saying "Oh my gods!" instead, however, it hit me that I really only worship one deity, and therefore, when I say "oh my god!" I could just as well be referring to Sarasvati...she seems to be amused by this.

Totally random observation. Please chime in with your own. Do you say "oh my gods" or what? Do you understand "oh my God!" to mean uppercase-G G-D? Or just any god, or even maybe your personal patron god? Or is it just an expression?

Am I overthinking this???? It's just....Words Mean Things!!!!:eek:

 TO be honest I think that that particular statement/sentence has been kind of etched into peoples (in general) brains over the years. So many people say "Oh my God!" that it just kind of sticks in there and we absentmindedly; at times, say this because of  that. But then again, that's my thoughts, I tend to so Gods instead but on occasions due to that stuck "oh my God" in the brain it just kind of comes out that way..."Oh my God!!"
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Re: Oh my....*what goes in this spot?* (Totally random question!)
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2014, 04:27:55 pm »
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So something just struck me as my two cats just randomly tore across my apartment and  then paused to knock a couple of vases over intentionally (both vases and cats are unharmed). I was so amused yet horrified that I cried out "you are so mean! oh my GOD!"

I'm a polytheist. I usually make a point of saying "Oh my gods!" instead, however, it hit me that I really only worship one deity, and therefore, when I say "oh my god!" I could just as well be referring to Sarasvati...she seems to be amused by this.

Totally random observation. Please chime in with your own. Do you say "oh my gods" or what? Do you understand "oh my God!" to mean uppercase-G G-D? Or just any god, or even maybe your personal patron god? Or is it just an expression?

Am I overthinking this???? It's just....Words Mean Things!!!!:eek:

 
I say "oh my gawd." You can actually hear the W.

When I was a baby pagan I deliberately said "oh my gods!" but I think it was my way of going "I am not Christian, do not mistake me for one" to both the world and myself. But I've lapsed back into what culturally is understood. I mean, I also say 'Jesus Christ' an awful lot. (Look like a lady, swear like a sailor. That's my motto.)

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Re: Oh my....*what goes in this spot?* (Totally random question!)
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2014, 04:35:09 pm »
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I'm a polytheist. I usually make a point of saying "Oh my gods!" instead, however, it hit me that I really only worship one deity, and therefore, when I say "oh my god!" I could just as well be referring to Sarasvati...she seems to be amused by this.

 
It's a cultural idiom.  I'm not literally talking about the Biblical figure when I scream "Jesus Christ!" after stepping on a nail.  I'm not literally calling someone an anal sphincter when I refer to them as an asshole.

Honestly, changing idioms this way always sounds pretentious to my ear.

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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2014, 04:46:01 pm »
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I'm not literally calling someone an anal sphincter when I refer to them as an asshole.

 
And now I'm officially going to call someone an anal sphincter. XD

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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2014, 05:25:28 pm »
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And now I'm officially going to call someone an anal sphincter. XD


Internal or external?
 
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Re: Oh my....*what goes in this spot?* (Totally random question!)
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2014, 05:33:28 pm »
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I say "oh my gawd." You can actually hear the W.

When I was a baby pagan I deliberately said "oh my gods!" but I think it was my way of going "I am not Christian, do not mistake me for one" to both the world and myself. But I've lapsed back into what culturally is understood. I mean, I also say 'Jesus Christ' an awful lot. (Look like a lady, swear like a sailor. That's my motto.)

 
I sometimes say oh my gawd, too. But when I'm at work or around people I can't swear with, I say "oh my goodness." It was originally my way of slowly transitioning to Goddess when I was starting out with Wiccish-paganism, but it just stuck. Now I say it if I'm around parents/customers/strangers.
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2014, 05:40:40 pm »
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It's a cultural idiom.  I'm not literally talking about the Biblical figure when I scream "Jesus Christ!" after stepping on a nail.  I'm not literally calling someone an anal sphincter when I refer to them as an asshole.

Honestly, changing idioms this way always sounds pretentious to my ear.

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Honestly, it doesn't to me; I was raised in a very religious household. Saying "Oh my God" or yelling "Jesus Christ!" was always understood as "taking the Lord's name in vain." Just calling the expressions "cultural idiom" overlooks the fact that they are indeed religious in origin, and still seen as religious in some areas of the US. I come from one of those areas.

If you casually say "Jesus!" in polite company in downtown Asheboro, you WILL offend someone. It's seen the same way as profanity. Honestly, I understand why a highly devout Christian would be upset at hearing his or her deity's name blurted out the same way one might drop an F-bomb.
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2014, 05:47:38 pm »
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If you casually say "Jesus!" in polite company in downtown Asheboro, you WILL offend someone. It's seen the same way as profanity. Honestly, I understand why a highly devout Christian would be upset at hearing his or her deity's name blurted out the same way one might drop an F-bomb.


I should be clear that I have no problem personally with anyone saying "God!" or "Jesus!" when they stub their toe or whatever. If YHWH saw that as a serious failing, I'd have been struck dead a loooooong time ago....I just understand why certain Christians would be upset when they hear someone say it.

I personally look at such expressions more as invocations. Whenever I yelled "GOD!" because I banged my elbow, I looked at it as a sort of plea to God to help me out with things. This is why I really like the idea of using "oh my god" to refer to one's patron god.
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2014, 06:03:42 pm »
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Internal or external?
 
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Oh my gaaaaawd, so many choices! I'll call two people anal sphincters then, one of each.

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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2014, 06:43:53 pm »
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Oh my gaaaaawd, so many choices! I'll call two people anal sphincters then, one of each.

 
This just randomly reminded me of the fact that I refuse to refer to any female as a "dick." Only men. Is that weird?
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