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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2013, 11:40:33 am »
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I don't talk about it. Honestly, militant atheists have the same zealotry that militant religious people have... I have some wonderful atheist friends, but I just don't talk about it.

 
Yup.  One of the only times I've felt genuinely uncomfortable because of someone pushing their views on religion, it was because of that kind of atheist.  There was a girl in one of my classes a couple of years back who would invariably spend the time before class started ranting about how much religion sucked and how stupid it was, etc. etc.  I remember I once told her that even though I didn't agree with her, I admired the fact that she clearly cared about defining what she believed and how it differed from other people.  She was so disgusted with me for saying I didn't agree that she literally got up and left the room.

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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2013, 04:46:16 pm »
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In this respect, I'm pretty lucky.Why? Because people don't recognize hammers. I can wear one openly at work and have no problems. A rather amusing incident was when I was at work, a little old lady walked up to me to say that my necklace was pretty and ask what it was. When I told her it was a Hammer of Thor, she said "Oh, well I don't know who that is, but it's pretty!" and then walked away.

I live in North Texas, where as long as you're a good neighbour, and not worshipping purple crystals in a pink tutu at the town square, people don't really care about your religion. Plus it helps that I'm never involved in any kind of pagan gathering, nor am I inclined to be.

 
I wear my Eye of Horus necklace out in the open and I've not had anyone make any comments. Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2013, 04:47:13 pm »
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Yup.  One of the only times I've felt genuinely uncomfortable because of someone pushing their views on religion, it was because of that kind of atheist.  There was a girl in one of my classes a couple of years back who would invariably spend the time before class started ranting about how much religion sucked and how stupid it was, etc. etc.  I remember I once told her that even though I didn't agree with her, I admired the fact that she clearly cared about defining what she believed and how it differed from other people.  She was so disgusted with me for saying I didn't agree that she literally got up and left the room.

 
And did she ever come back?

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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2013, 10:42:50 pm »
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And did she ever come back?

 
Yeah, she came back in time for class.  It was a bit strange.

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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2013, 02:06:52 am »
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Have any of you suffered discrimination as a pagan?


I think a couple of these walk the line between being "discrimination" and being "wacky hijinks."

Back when I was in high school, the filter on the school computers would block any pagan-related content on the grounds that it was "occult."  My little sister is now a senior at the same school, and she told me it's been changed now, though.

One time, when I was 15, I was at the park with my cousin (who was 5 at the time).  He was playing with another kid, and I got to talking with the other kid's mom.  I was wearing my Mj√∂lnir necklace at the time, and she asked me what it was, so I explained it to her.  She seemed really cool with it, and was asking all sorts of questions, and I even felt comfortable explaining to her that I primarily work with Loki and Hel.  She said that my religion was really interesting, then almost as an afterthought, glances over at my cousin and says "You're not raising him like this, though, right?"  Kinda floored me there 'cause she'd seemed so cool with it, also because she apparently thought I was old enough to be the kid's mom.

When I was 17, just after I moved away for school, I got questioned by a cop and a university official about my religion.

Earlier today, my friend and I were followed across campus by a woman who was yelling at us about how we need Jesus.  We wound up spending half an hour hiding in a storage closet.
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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2013, 08:24:09 am »
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Sophia is right. Here in the UK, you are far more likely to be descriminated against for being a Goth than a Pagan. In fact, that is much more often the case.


Having been both, I have to agree. Not sure how it would be in some one-horse town, but my area has a long pagan tradition and a strong community. I've never even been asked about it, not even by staff in witchy stores, although the local independent bookseller always had a bit of a knowing smile on her face when she rang up my copy of Pentacle. :)

I don't look any different now - I still wear the Brigid's cross I bought for my Cill shifts - so only those who catch a glimpse of me going into or coming out of church will be the wiser. I suspect they'd just chalk it up to a liking for the exotic. :whis:
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Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2013, 10:37:38 am »
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Have any of you suffered discrimination as a pagan?

Not as a pagan, though I'm still in the, broom closet.  My wife & sister know, but my dad & coworkers do not.  Although, if, you were to pay attention to my FB, you would see me liked to various pagan pages.

Now when I thought I was an atheist, not to me, but to my daughter.  She had a friend, who's mom is a devout Christian, and I always got this wierd vibe from her.  She knew from my wife that I was an atheist.  Anyways, playdates were only for a few hours, and overnights were my daughter at their house.  Not vise versa.  I don't prosthelytize to people, and despite having a salty vocabulary, I watch my language around her friends.

Perhaps she is weird.  Perhaps I am paranoid.  Either way, it leaves me with a WTF moment.  At least she has friends from Girl Scouts, and she's been the source of "Lol fuel" for my wife and I.

For work, I am lucky to work for a large organization that I'd very diverse. To give you an idea, they have an awareness group dedicated to our gay & lesbian employees.  I can wear my pentacle in the open, and even a statue to a god out goddess.  No one can do a thing.
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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2013, 11:34:50 pm »
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Earlier today, my friend and I were followed across campus by a woman who was yelling at us about how we need Jesus.  We wound up spending half an hour hiding in a storage closet.

 
*sarcasm mode* That sounds like fun!

We get a group of evangelicals on my campus every wednesday, but they're pretty nice ladies and we have interesting conversations. It helps that they've pretty much given up on "saving me." They just make a few half-heated attempts every now and then. Occasionally one will get pushy with me, but the "do you take me for an oathbreaker?" lecture will usually shut them up.
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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #53 on: April 18, 2013, 01:08:13 am »
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Have any of you suffered discrimination as a pagan? I must admit that I've never suffered any form of discrimination out there as a pagan. I've been attacked on-line by people that believe that I have to be black to worship the Egyptian gods but that was a couple of years ago and every once in a while someone will find my video's and make comments that are stupid but out there, no.

 
I've never really told anyone, no.

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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2013, 04:04:31 pm »
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Have any of you suffered discrimination as a pagan?.

 
Yes, even though I haven't had much ritualized or academic practice, I have known for a while that I would follow a Pagan path.  Unfortunately,  my father is Atheist to the point that any religious belief is "silly" and my grandparents on that side are stringent Christians.  I never hid what my choice was from my family because I was raised to believe in my opinions, but my grandparents ask *every time* they see my pentagrams "What is that?" even though I have explained it, and they just smile and nod and say things like, "Oh, well, you really should come talk with some of the kids at our church, they might know what to say about that" or my dad interrupting when they ask to say "It's just something she wears to try and stand out"

It has happened from previous jobs as well- I had a wrist band that had a solid star in a ring, not even a pentagram, that I wore to work frequently because it was a good accessory for the uniform.  One night my manager came to me and said I wasn't allowed to wear it anymore because it offended one of the guests. I asked what about it was offensive and he just said I wasn't allowed to wear it, end of discussion.  The other girls were allowed to wear bracelets and necklaces with crosses all the time, but a piece of jewelry that *resembled* an occult symbol was offensive.  I never openly wore my pentagrams at job for specifically that reason.
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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2013, 04:17:11 pm »
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Have any of you suffered discrimination as a pagan? I must admit that I've never suffered any form of discrimination out there as a pagan. I've been attacked on-line by people that believe that I have to be black to worship the Egyptian gods but that was a couple of years ago and every once in a while someone will find my video's and make comments that are stupid but out there, no.
Once a lady ask me what symbol i was wearing and I told her is a symbol of the God Taranis. She then started to tell me how all pagan deities are demons and they just disguise themselves that way to trick and confuse me. Then I said well you must be a demon to, because your confusing me right now! lol
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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2013, 02:23:16 am »
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Have any of you suffered discrimination as a pagan? I must admit that I've never suffered any form of discrimination out there as a pagan. I've been attacked on-line by people that believe that I have to be black to worship the Egyptian gods but that was a couple of years ago and every once in a while someone will find my video's and make comments that are stupid but out there, no.

 
No, weirdly, not really. I've had some people from monotheistic religions who were concerned, a few people telling me I'm going to Hell, and a few atheists mocking me...or saying they thought I was "smarter" than that, but still nothing I'd class as truly harassment or discrimination.

I have had it for being polyamorous, trans*, pansexual, gay (before I knew I was pan), and goth... but not really for being pagan.

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Sophia is right. Here in the UK, you are far more likely to be descriminated against for being a Goth than a Pagan. In fact, that is much more often the case.

 
And in some parts of the USA, too. I get that all the time, here.
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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2013, 08:46:13 am »
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Once a lady ask me what symbol i was wearing and I told her is a symbol of the God Taranis. She then started to tell me how all pagan deities are demons and they just disguise themselves that way to trick and confuse me. Then I said well you must be a demon to, because your confusing me right now! lol

 
This- Amazing way to answer!
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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2013, 01:53:20 am »
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Have any of you suffered discrimination as a pagan? I must admit that I've never suffered any form of discrimination out there as a pagan. I've been attacked on-line by people that believe that I have to be black to worship the Egyptian gods but that was a couple of years ago and every once in a while someone will find my video's and make comments that are stupid but out there, no.

 
Not really. I do not have propensity to discuss my beliefs and they are not well known. I don't think I would really care anyways. The only instance where I would is if I was denied a job over the fact. However, I do not feel there is a place for religion in the workplace so it would never come up anyways.

However I did discriminate against a blind date who coincidentally turned out to be Pagan. She showed up drunk to our date and went on a tangent about past lives. She revealed to me that she was in fact the reincarnation of some great queen...or something. I told her it must be the vodka and then pretended to be a staunch Baptist with fiery views until she got fed up and left.

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Re: Have You Ever Suffered Discrimination As A Pagan?
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2013, 02:26:28 am »
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However I did discriminate against a blind date who coincidentally turned out to be Pagan. She showed up drunk to our date and went on a tangent about past lives. She revealed to me that she was in fact the reincarnation of some great queen...or something. I told her it must be the vodka and then pretended to be a staunch Baptist with fiery views until she got fed up and left.

 
That's not discrimination that's putting an inconsiderate jerk in their place.

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