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Bruder Isidorus

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https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#%21/petition/bar-courts-and-l...

 

Currently in the Federal Court system of California, inmates who practice Pagan religions like Wicca and Druidry are suing for discrimination because they have been barred from practicing their religion which they had been legally allowed to practice.

The State of California, with help of the Conservative Christian Dominionist group the Wallbuilders, is arguing that religions like Wicca are not worthy of being protected by the First Amendment. If a federal court rules that Wicca and other Pagan religions are not worthy of equal status it means that every Pagan in the US could be fired from their job, lose their churches and covens, and be otherwise discriminated against. Please do not let a federal court take our rights away, this country is for everyone of every religion.
Created: Sep 25, 2011

 

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#%21/petition/bar-courts-and-l...

 

We need more signatures.  People are being fired from their jobs just for being pagan.  It's tiring that our religion is being discriminated against :(

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Quote from: Bruder Isidorus;25834
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#%21/petition/bar-courts-and-l...

We need more signatures.  People are being fired from their jobs just for being pagan.  It's tiring that our religion is being discriminated against :(

 
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Your link goes to a site with a "Undergoing maintenance" message.

Do you have an article link?

 

Just as an aside...I sure don't see this one happening.
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Quote from: victoreia;25854
Your link goes to a site with a "Undergoing maintenance" message.

Do you have an article link?

 
And apparently this petition is being spammed all over the place. I wouldn't look for the OP to return any time soon.
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Quote from: LyricFox;25861
Just as an aside...I sure don't see this one happening.

No, I can't see the Ninth Circuit Appeals Court going along with saying certain religions aren't protected by the First Amendment even if some federal judge did.  And I certainly don't see the US Supreme Court agreeing with it. Even Scalia would be unlikely to support it.
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Quote from: LyricFox;25863
And apparently this petition is being spammed all over the place. I wouldn't look for the OP to return any time soon.

Pretty stupid to spam a link to a petition that doesn't even work. :confused:
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No, I can't see the Ninth Circuit Appeals Court going along with saying certain religions aren't protected by the First Amendment even if some federal judge did.  And I certainly don't see the US Supreme Court agreeing with it. Even Scalia would be unlikely to support it.

 
Well, apparently a lower court ruling was held up, but it's not saying at all what the OP is saying. From what I can see, too, Wallbuilders filed an amicus brief on this suit...they didn't bring it.

I'm not sure, though, if this is the same case because every time I look for something, I get this same damn message they've spammed all over the world. This case has been around awhile, though, so it's possible it's the same one.
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Quote from: RandallS;25865
Pretty stupid to spam a link to a petition that doesn't even work. :confused:

 
I think this is the case.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2010/01/is-the-first-amendment-for-monotheists-only.html
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Quote from: LyricFox;25872
I think this is the case.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/2010/01/is-the-first-amendment-for-monotheists-only.html


Ah the irony. America was based on religious freedoms. I guess that depends on who's freedoms we're talking about. I can't see that being upheld either but if it were, what does that say about America?

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Ah the irony. America was based on religious freedoms. I guess that depends on who's freedoms we're talking about. I can't see that being upheld either but if it were, what does that say about America?


To me it says, "Don't commit a crime and go to jail."

But that's just me.
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Quote from: LyricFox;25941
To me it says, "Don't commit a crime and go to jail."

But that's just me.

 
LOL, very true. But that should be common sense.. and yet..

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Pretty stupid to spam a link to a petition that doesn't even work. :confused:

 
I posted about this a few weeks ago, if you are interested in signing it look up petition in the search bar and you will see a post called "Petition" posted by ZombyFrogg. The link works.

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