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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2015, 09:15:38 pm »
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Just hanging my reply here...

So far I've made it through the story of Chronos' son.  Altair, you have a true gift for the written word.  I am thoroughly enjoying the experience.  Reading through the end of this tale I found myself forgetting the words were there and the images simply played through my mind as if I were watching a movie.  Truly enjoyable.
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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2015, 10:42:41 pm »
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Just hanging my reply here...

So far I've made it through the story of Chronos' son.  Altair, you have a true gift for the written word.  I am thoroughly enjoying the experience.  Reading through the end of this tale I found myself forgetting the words were there and the images simply played through my mind as if I were watching a movie.  Truly enjoyable.


Ditto to all this.  

And thank you, Altair, for the book.  Mine arrived yesterday.
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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2015, 09:01:53 am »
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you have a true gift for the written word.  I am thoroughly enjoying the experience.  Reading through the end of this tale I found myself forgetting the words were there and the images simply played through my mind as if I were watching a movie.  Truly enjoyable.


Thanks, Oaksworn, and MZ and Veggiewolf and everyone else who has offered their kind words.

Not to be a broken record, but if you still feel the same way when you've finished the book, say it on Amazon! It makes a huge difference in getting word about the book out there.
The first song sets the wheel in motion / The second is a song of love / The third song tells of Her devotion / The fourth cries joy from the sky above
The fifth song binds our fate to silence / and bids us live each moment well / The sixth unleashes rage and violence / The seventh song has truth to tell
The last song echoes through the ages / to ask its question all night long / And close the circle on these pages / These, the metamythos songs

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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2015, 09:35:19 am »
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As for the puzzle aspect, it's buried deep (it had to be, so that the myths unfold without impediment but the clues are still there), and it's very difficult to unravel.


Kelly wanted some pointers, and I thought you guys might enjoy trying to puzzle this out as a group, so...

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The very first sentences point you in the right direction; ask yourself this:

What is "the incontrovertible language of the gods"?
(from the 3rd sentence of the 1st myth)

[hint]


You've already got that clue; we'll call that #1. Here are some other questions to ask yourself as you read through the book [with notations as to which myths might contain vital info]:

2. What is the symbol of the Great Goddess? [Dramatis Dei Personae, The Curse, Truth and Consequences] What then, in "the incontrovertible language of the gods," represents Her true name, "elusive to its last syllable"?

3. Only one deity refers to him or herself in the first person with a lower case "i" (instead of "I"). Who is it? And appropriately enough, what does this signify in "the incontrovertible language of the gods"?

4. Pay attention to whenever Unu's song is mentioned. What words are used to describe it? What do the vast majority of those words have in common?

That's a good start. Maybe a few more questions later, but see where those lead you.
The first song sets the wheel in motion / The second is a song of love / The third song tells of Her devotion / The fourth cries joy from the sky above
The fifth song binds our fate to silence / and bids us live each moment well / The sixth unleashes rage and violence / The seventh song has truth to tell
The last song echoes through the ages / to ask its question all night long / And close the circle on these pages / These, the metamythos songs

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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2015, 03:42:36 pm »
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3. Only one deity refers to him or herself in the first person with a lower case "i" (instead of "I"). Who is it? And appropriately enough, what does this signify in "the incontrovertible language of the gods"?

 
I was wondering if you'd done that on purpose. ;)

Started reading it today. The handwritten note was an incredibly sweet gesture, by the way. And the book looks and feels VERY professional. I'm on Myth #3.
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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #65 on: January 14, 2015, 05:49:37 pm »
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I was wondering if you'd done that on purpose. ;)

Started reading it today. The handwritten note was an incredibly sweet gesture, by the way. And the book looks and feels VERY professional. I'm on Myth #3.

 
Agree with Sage; the book looks great!!

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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2015, 06:18:21 pm »
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Kelly wanted some pointers, and I thought you guys might enjoy trying to puzzle this out as a group, so...



You've already got that clue; we'll call that #1. Here are some other questions to ask yourself as you read through the book [with notations as to which myths might contain vital info]:

2. What is the symbol of the Great Goddess? [Dramatis Dei Personae, The Curse, Truth and Consequences] What then, in "the incontrovertible language of the gods," represents Her true name, "elusive to its last syllable"?

3. Only one deity refers to him or herself in the first person with a lower case "i" (instead of "I"). Who is it? And appropriately enough, what does this signify in "the incontrovertible language of the gods"?

4. Pay attention to whenever Unu's song is mentioned. What words are used to describe it? What do the vast majority of those words have in common?

That's a good start. Maybe a few more questions later, but see where those lead you.

I just finished this fantastic book.  Kudos, Altair!!!  (And, yes, I left a review on Amazon. ;-)  ) I recommend this book without reservation and I'm now totally ready to read absolutely anything you ever write!  

About the puzzle:  I think I have a pretty good handle on it, although I haven't yet tried to decipher the code at the end.  I think I've got the answers to your hints 1-4 quoted above.

Is there an overarching "answer"?  Or should I be focusing on the code now?
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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2015, 08:38:47 pm »
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I just finished this fantastic book.  Kudos, Altair!!!  (And, yes, I left a review on Amazon. ;-)  ) I recommend this book without reservation and I'm now totally ready to read absolutely anything you ever write!  

About the puzzle:  I think I have a pretty good handle on it, although I haven't yet tried to decipher the code at the end.  I think I've got the answers to your hints 1-4 quoted above.

Is there an overarching "answer"?  Or should I be focusing on the code now?

 
THANK YOU for the praise and esp. the review!

PM me with your answers to 1-4, and I'll let you know how you did. Yes, there's an overarching answer; 1-4 point you in its direction. Once you have the overarching answer, you're in a good position to crack the code--though even knowing that answer, by no means is cracking the code guaranteed.
The first song sets the wheel in motion / The second is a song of love / The third song tells of Her devotion / The fourth cries joy from the sky above
The fifth song binds our fate to silence / and bids us live each moment well / The sixth unleashes rage and violence / The seventh song has truth to tell
The last song echoes through the ages / to ask its question all night long / And close the circle on these pages / These, the metamythos songs

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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2015, 03:37:38 pm »
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THANK YOU for the praise and esp. the review!

PM me with your answers to 1-4, and I'll let you know how you did. Yes, there's an overarching answer; 1-4 point you in its direction. Once you have the overarching answer, you're in a good position to crack the code--though even knowing that answer, by no means is cracking the code guaranteed.

 
I got my copy of it today myself! I might not get around to reading it right away, but when I do, I'll leave a review up on Amazon.

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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2015, 10:54:58 pm »
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As for the puzzle aspect, it's buried deep (it had to be, so that the myths unfold without impediment but the clues are still there), and it's very difficult to unravel.
Kelly wanted some pointers, and I thought you guys might enjoy trying to puzzle this out as a group, so...

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The very first sentences point you in the right direction; ask yourself this:

What is "the incontrovertible language of the gods"?
(from the 3rd sentence of the 1st myth)

[hint]

 

You've already got that clue; we'll call that #1. Here are some other questions to ask yourself as you read through the book [with notations as to which myths might contain vital info]:

2. What is the symbol of the Great Goddess? [Dramatis Dei Personae, The Curse, Truth and Consequences] What then, in "the incontrovertible language of the gods," represents Her true name, "elusive to its last syllable"?

3. Only one deity refers to him or herself in the first person with a lower case "i" (instead of "I"). Who is it? And appropriately enough, what does this signify in "the incontrovertible language of the gods"?

4. Pay attention to whenever Unu's song is mentioned. What words are used to describe it? What do the vast majority of those words have in common?

That's a good start. Maybe a few more questions later, but see where those lead you.


Unu is a circle, although my copy sometimes spells her name as Uum, which looks a lot like the m and UU shapes of the symbols for Logos and Gnomon, except Gnomon's is dotted whereas Logos' isn't. Logos could address himself in the lowercase i because…Logos is secretly Gnomon! He's like Batman, except an owl! Logos is Owl Man!

I'm also reminded of this joke from the stage play Picasso at the Lapine Agile where this baker takes an order for an E-shaped cake. The customer goes to get the order and says, "No, this is all wrong! I wanted a lowercase e!" So the baker said the order would take another day. The next day, the customer came in and saw that it was a lowercase e-shaped cake, and was satisfied, and the baker said, "Should I wrap it up for you?" And the customer replied, "No, I'll just eat it here." In the play, Einstein said that the joke wouldn't have worked for any other letter in the alphabet, and explains why by going through almost the entire alphabet. (A is both an article and a noun and would make the joke tedious to tell, B could be mistaken for the insect, C looks the same lowercase and uppercase… is the dot in the lowercase i a real cake, or is it a cupcake? And so on.) (Logos Gnomon is a cupcake.)
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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2015, 02:16:06 am »
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Hanging this here--

I'm around halfway through the book and wow. I have no words. It truly is astounding, and once I'm finished, I'm definitely leaving a review on Amazon.
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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2015, 05:44:42 pm »
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Unu is a circle


Yup, that's Her symbol

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although my copy sometimes spells her name as Uum


Uum is something different (though deliberately named in similar fashion to Unu, so I can see why there's confusion); Uum is the primordial "sea," a.k.a. the Void.

(I couldn't resist poaching that vowel-consonant combo, so rare in English, from continuum and vacuum, both of which suggest the expansive and empty backdrop that is the Void's primary attribute in the Metamythos)

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which looks a lot like the m and UU shapes of the symbols for Logos and Gnomon, except Gnomon's is dotted whereas Logos' isn't.


That Gnomon's symbol is derived from Logos' is meant to convey the nature of their relationship; the dots are meant to convey eyes (to make the face of an owl), just as the dot does in the counterpart symbol to Gnomon, the symbol for Sol. And in both cases, the dots also signify an intensification/distillation of the attributes of their respective masters (Gnomon = pure knowledge, Sol = pure energy/power).

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 Logos could address himself in the lowercase i because…Logos is secretly Gnomon! He's like Batman, except an owl! Logos is Owl Man!


LOL...but guess again!
The first song sets the wheel in motion / The second is a song of love / The third song tells of Her devotion / The fourth cries joy from the sky above
The fifth song binds our fate to silence / and bids us live each moment well / The sixth unleashes rage and violence / The seventh song has truth to tell
The last song echoes through the ages / to ask its question all night long / And close the circle on these pages / These, the metamythos songs

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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2015, 05:48:06 pm »
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Hanging this here--

I'm around halfway through the book and wow. I have no words. It truly is astounding, and once I'm finished, I'm definitely leaving a review on Amazon.


Many thanks, Harping Hawke! I won't say what my favorite myth is, but I'm guessing you haven't gotten there yet.
The first song sets the wheel in motion / The second is a song of love / The third song tells of Her devotion / The fourth cries joy from the sky above
The fifth song binds our fate to silence / and bids us live each moment well / The sixth unleashes rage and violence / The seventh song has truth to tell
The last song echoes through the ages / to ask its question all night long / And close the circle on these pages / These, the metamythos songs

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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2015, 07:48:04 pm »
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Just got the kindle copy!

No idea when I will finally read it because it has to join the queue behind Shad, Kiya and Morag's books (I will always buy Cauldron members' books. Getting around to reading them is another matter entirely :o )

 
So I started reading it on Thursday (it jumped to the top of the queue because of the reviews so far :p ) but I've had to stop because my Discworld re-read is now my main priority.
From the first few pages I've read it looks like it's going to be amazing but I've hit a snag. I'm not going to be able to read it on my kindle. For some books I just cannot read on a kindle (think it's something to do with the dyslexia) and this is going to be one of them. It's not a bad thing, all of my favourite authors apart from PTerry (so Tolkien, Manda Scott and Bernard Cornwell) I can't read on a kindle, has to be in print form.
Anyway, I shall get it in print when I can, read it and then write my first ever amazon book review. :p

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Re: Songs of the Metamythos --by Altair
« Reply #74 on: March 17, 2015, 02:56:25 am »
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Uum is the primordial "sea," a.k.a. the Void.


Is Uum the name of the dragon?

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the dots also signify an intensification/distillation of the attributes of their respective masters (Gnomon = pure knowledge, Sol = pure energy/power).


Interesting! :)
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