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Magical conductors and insulators
« on: September 22, 2013, 01:25:55 am »
Most of us consider copper to be a conductor of magic, as it is of electricity.  Quartz as well.  I'd like to see if we can identify any other materials that can conduct magical energy, or insulate against it.  

For example:

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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2013, 01:39:39 am »
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Most of us consider copper to be a conductor of magic, as it is of electricity.  Quartz as well.  I'd like to see if we can identify any other materials that can conduct magical energy, or insulate against it.  

For example:

 

Drat!  Hit something to post accidentally and took too long to type out my post!  Here's the rest:

I've been thinking a bit lately about how different materials are used in magical works.  It might be good for us to share our knowledge of how materials can block/stop/insulate against magic or promote/conduct it.


Metals: Some wands are made of copper for its ability to conduct magical energy.  Are some not good at conducting?  I remember something about galvanized steel not working well with magic and inhibiting it.  How about other metals?  

Stones:  Quartz, OK, a conductor.  How about other minerals- fluorite, magnetite, etc.   But what about concrete?  Would it conduct or insulate?  What about other sedimentary rocks- sandstone?  Any stones block energy?

 And speaking of stones, a lot of sand is made of quartz.  Here in the tropics our beach sand is made of crushed calcium carbonate from corals (by weathering and a cool process of being ground up by parrotfish)- Conductor?  Insulator?  Neutral?

Woods:  I recall that oak is associated with attracting lightning, so perhaps it's a good magical conductor?  What about other woods- better, worse, same?

Glass and ceramic:  Used as electrical insulators, what is the impact on magic?

Fabric:  I've read that silk can insulate against magic, and so cotton is used for a lot of mojo bags because it allows the magic to flow.  Anyone agree or disagree?  What about synthetic materials?  How about leathers?

That's a lot to think about, but feel free to add.  It might be interesting to think of how to use not just conducting properties but also insulating properties in a magical tool.

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Re: Magical conductors and insulators
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2013, 06:31:38 pm »
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Drat!  Hit something to post accidentally and took too long to type out my post!  Here's the rest:

I've been thinking a bit lately about how different materials are used in magical works.  It might be good for us to share our knowledge of how materials can block/stop/insulate against magic or promote/conduct it.


Metals: Some wands are made of copper for its ability to conduct magical energy.  Are some not good at conducting?  I remember something about galvanized steel not working well with magic and inhibiting it.  How about other metals?  

Stones:  Quartz, OK, a conductor.  How about other minerals- fluorite, magnetite, etc.   But what about concrete?  Would it conduct or insulate?  What about other sedimentary rocks- sandstone?  Any stones block energy?

 And speaking of stones, a lot of sand is made of quartz.  Here in the tropics our beach sand is made of crushed calcium carbonate from corals (by weathering and a cool process of being ground up by parrotfish)- Conductor?  Insulator?  Neutral?

Woods:  I recall that oak is associated with attracting lightning, so perhaps it's a good magical conductor?  What about other woods- better, worse, same?

Glass and ceramic:  Used as electrical insulators, what is the impact on magic?

Fabric:  I've read that silk can insulate against magic, and so cotton is used for a lot of mojo bags because it allows the magic to flow.  Anyone agree or disagree?  What about synthetic materials?  How about leathers?

That's a lot to think about, but feel free to add.  It might be interesting to think of how to use not just conducting properties but also insulating properties in a magical tool.


This is a pretty cool topic, I look forward to what everyone else has to say.  Honestly you've covered most everything that I can think of off the top of my head.  What about conductors and insulators that work with different energy currents?  For example, iron would insulate against a Fae energy current.  I believe the same (as well as salt) could be said for the death and ancestral current as well.  YMMV on that second one, especially the salt.  I have found that it's true for me though.  When I'm working with the dead and/or ancestors I prefer bronze.  I know a lot of people are put off by Christian Day, but his book also recommends bronze for the death current and provides sources for why it would be appropriate.  Unfortunately I've lent the book to a friend and don't have it on hand.

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Re: Magical conductors and insulators
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2013, 06:55:15 pm »
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Drat!  Hit something to post accidentally and took too long to type out my post!  Here's the rest:

I've been thinking a bit lately about how different materials are used in magical works.  It might be good for us to share our knowledge of how materials can block/stop/insulate against magic or promote/conduct it.


Metals: Some wands are made of copper for its ability to conduct magical energy.  Are some not good at conducting?  I remember something about galvanized steel not working well with magic and inhibiting it.  How about other metals?  

Stones:  Quartz, OK, a conductor.  How about other minerals- fluorite, magnetite, etc.   But what about concrete?  Would it conduct or insulate?  What about other sedimentary rocks- sandstone?  Any stones block energy?

 And speaking of stones, a lot of sand is made of quartz.  Here in the tropics our beach sand is made of crushed calcium carbonate from corals (by weathering and a cool process of being ground up by parrotfish)- Conductor?  Insulator?  Neutral?

Woods:  I recall that oak is associated with attracting lightning, so perhaps it's a good magical conductor?  What about other woods- better, worse, same?

Glass and ceramic:  Used as electrical insulators, what is the impact on magic?

Fabric:  I've read that silk can insulate against magic, and so cotton is used for a lot of mojo bags because it allows the magic to flow.  Anyone agree or disagree?  What about synthetic materials?  How about leathers?

That's a lot to think about, but feel free to add.  It might be interesting to think of how to use not just conducting properties but also insulating properties in a magical tool.

 I don't think any object can insulate against magic unless it is charged or enchanted to do so. Even then it's sort of debatable. All things have a certain resonance. I don't think for example that lets say a tarot app on a phone can be useful at all because the machine itself does not have the proper spiritual forces within it to do so. However that is not to say one cannot charge an electronic object with spiritual forces.
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Re: Magical conductors and insulators
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2013, 10:10:16 pm »
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I don't think any object can insulate against magic unless it is charged or enchanted to do so. Even then it's sort of debatable. All things have a certain resonance. I don't think for example that lets say a tarot app on a phone can be useful at all because the machine itself does not have the proper spiritual forces within it to do so. However that is not to say one cannot charge an electronic object with spiritual forces.

 
What about plastic?  I recall some people telling me that they stored their crystals in plastic boxes to prevent the energies mingling as they sat together.

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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2013, 07:03:43 am »
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What about plastic?  I recall some people telling me that they stored their crystals in plastic boxes to prevent the energies mingling as they sat together.

I was going to mention plastic too.  I used to know someone who could tell what was in a box just by holding it in his hands.  His mother would wrap the Christmas presents in a layer of plastic before wrapping them in paper so he couldn't suss out what was in the box.  :p
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Re: Magical conductors and insulators
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2013, 07:59:52 am »
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What about plastic?  I recall some people telling me that they stored their crystals in plastic boxes to prevent the energies mingling as they sat together.

 
I remember hearing this a lot probably about ten years ago:  that plastic was very bad magically.  I haven't really found this to be the case though.  It may not be my favorite material to work with, but I can use plastic if I need to.  (I really think the anti-plastic thing was more of a "should be natural material" thing).

My take on it is that different materials resonate better/worse for specific things.  If two objects share resonance, they will work well together, if they don't it will tend to scatter the energy more.
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I remember hearing this a lot probably about ten years ago:  that plastic was very bad magically.  I haven't really found this to be the case though.

Some here. I really haven't found any material that can't be worked with magically. However, some materials work better than others for different things. For examples, crystals tend to hold energy very well while wood and metals are better at directly energy than holding it.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2013, 11:11:55 am »
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What about plastic?  I recall some people telling me that they stored their crystals in plastic boxes to prevent the energies mingling as they sat together.

 
The way I see it, it's because few have ever actually put plastic to use. You do know what plastic is derived from right? Plastic as a material unlike numerous other substances and elements has been barely been studied.
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Re: Magical conductors and insulators
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2013, 06:41:54 am »
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I'd like to see if we can identify any other materials that can conduct magical energy, or insulate against it.

 
I'm not sure that anything can insulate against magic as someone pointed out at least without being worked with for that specific purpose. I do think that some materials may inhibit energy flow, though, and even make magic harder to get through.

I've heard of a stone supposedly being good if you tend to 'waste' too much energy because it helps you stay more grounded, I think that could count as something that insulates. I can't remember the name right now but I can look it up.

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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2013, 09:33:29 am »
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I'd like to see if we can identify any other materials that can conduct magical energy, or insulate against it


I must throw in this disclaimer: I don't believe in energy anymore. It get confusing to refer to occult or subtle energy with what we know about physical energy, for example, its conductivity as if it has heat.

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Some chaotes have professed that thinking or believing a material is conductive is what makes it so. This means that I must examine how I think or believe in a thing, because otherwise it happens automatically: plastic is impossible for me to program, gray haematite is so conductive that if I cast a spell on it then that's "energy" that I won't see again or get back, clear quartz is supposed to be very programmable but mine just did its own thing and I learned to work with that...

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