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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #960 on: October 21, 2014, 11:34:09 am »
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That wont get me self confidence.
Just more labels. In my experiance anyhow.

I am working on my beliefs list. that helps.

 
Working to actually do something about your mental state doesn't give you confidence?

Good!

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #961 on: October 21, 2014, 11:35:38 am »
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I am working on my beliefs list. that helps.

 
awesome! I for one am really interested in seeing it when you are done
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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #962 on: October 21, 2014, 11:46:06 am »
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Working to actually do something about your mental state doesn't give you confidence?

Good!

 Therapy does not. Trust me.

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #963 on: October 21, 2014, 11:47:03 am »
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awesome! I for one am really interested in seeing it when you are done

 
Yeah.
Funny thing, i work best in the evening/night.....

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #964 on: October 21, 2014, 12:01:06 pm »
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Therapy does not. Trust me.

 
Cognitive behavioural therapy is a specific type of therapy, wherein they help you learn to avoid harmful thought patterns. It may not work for everyone, no, but my point is that people aren't just telling you to talk to a counsellor/therapist.

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #965 on: October 21, 2014, 12:04:04 pm »
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Cognitive behavioural therapy is a specific type of therapy, wherein they help you learn to avoid harmful thought patterns. It may not work for everyone, no, but my point is that people aren't just telling you to talk to a counsellor/therapist.

I had those and they only gave me labels and experimental medication........
I would rather solve my problems by getting more energy, and thusly more self confidence.

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #966 on: October 21, 2014, 12:17:39 pm »
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I had those and they only gave me labels and experimental medication........
I would rather solve my problems by getting more energy, and thusly more self confidence.

 
Cognitive behavioural therapy has nothing to do with medication. In fact, the kind of therapists who do it generally are not licensed to provide anyone with medication (you need to be a doctor for that).

No one is forcing you to go, but please do realize that there is more than one kind of therapist and therapy.

Although getting more energy is, in a way, a way of bettering yourself, it is skipping over the real issue. It is rather akin to having depression, but going to a gym rather than talking to a doctor or therapist to find a cause or cure to the illness.*

*Going to the gym is often a great idea for depressed people, but not as sole treatment for the illness.

What I'm trying to say is, research ways to help with your thought patterns, including therapy (remember, not all therapists are alike, as humans or in what kind of therapy they give). You can also work on gaining energy, but that won't solve your thought problems, even if it makes you feel a bit better.

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #967 on: October 21, 2014, 12:31:22 pm »
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Cognitive behavioural therapy has nothing to do with medication. In fact, the kind of therapists who do it generally are not licensed to provide anyone with medication (you need to be a doctor for that).

No one is forcing you to go, but please do realize that there is more than one kind of therapist and therapy.

Although getting more energy is, in a way, a way of bettering yourself, it is skipping over the real issue. It is rather akin to having depression, but going to a gym rather than talking to a doctor or therapist to find a cause or cure to the illness.*

*Going to the gym is often a great idea for depressed people, but not as sole treatment for the illness.

What I'm trying to say is, research ways to help with your thought patterns, including therapy (remember, not all therapists are alike, as humans or in what kind of therapy they give). You can also work on gaining energy, but that won't solve your thought problems, even if it makes you feel a bit better.

Going to the gym is not for me. I hate the sports culture......

Bessides there aint no cure for my stuff.
I think i have to live with it.

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #968 on: October 21, 2014, 12:36:05 pm »
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Going to the gym is not for me. I hate the sports culture......

Bessides there aint no cure for my stuff.
I think i have to live with it.

 
I'm not saying there is a cure, especially since I don't know what your ailment is, or if it even is an ailment or just a thought process. However, you are very unlikely to get better if you don't even explore options that may help you (not 'cure' or 'fix' you, but help you).

The gym part was just a comparison, I was not suggesting you should go there.

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #969 on: October 21, 2014, 02:14:22 pm »
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...Bessides there aint no cure for my stuff.
I think i have to live with it.

 
Hi Thrak,

There are a number of us dealing with chronic conditions of one kind or another who are also living with the fact that, even with treatment, there's no cure for what ails us.  This does not mean there is no help out there, and it does not mean that looking for and then using that help is pointless.

I'm sorry you've had such bad experiences in the past.  If you are ever ready to reach out for support, I hope you can find what you need.

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #970 on: October 21, 2014, 03:48:15 pm »
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Going to the gym is not for me. I hate the sports culture......

Bessides there aint no cure for my stuff.
I think i have to live with it.

 
You know, I am always happy when I see this thread has updated because you just consistently throw out the most bananas statements, Thrak. You can go to the gym without liking 'sports culture.' I go to the gym. I am about as far removed from sports culture as is humanly possible.

But more importantly... nobody told you to go to the gym! You jumped to that idea like a frog on crack. It is no wonder people have such a hard time having a conversation with you. I think you need to consider that sometimes people use comparisons to make a point, and also that not every suggestion we make is an order.

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #971 on: October 22, 2014, 05:05:26 am »
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I'm not saying there is a cure, especially since I don't know what your ailment is, or if it even is an ailment or just a thought process. However, you are very unlikely to get better if you don't even explore options that may help you (not 'cure' or 'fix' you, but help you).

The gym part was just a comparison, I was not suggesting you should go there.

 
Well, i think that thse thoughts are a part of me.
Not always but mostly when iam stressed.
Right now iam not. :)

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« Reply #972 on: October 22, 2014, 05:07:19 am »
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Hi Thrak,

There are a number of us dealing with chronic conditions of one kind or another who are also living with the fact that, even with treatment, there's no cure for what ails us.  This does not mean there is no help out there, and it does not mean that looking for and then using that help is pointless.

I'm sorry you've had such bad experiences in the past.  If you are ever ready to reach out for support, I hope you can find what you need.

-veggiewolf

 
Oh i have plenty of Help, it will probably just take a while.
Bessides i can deal with it. Its not that bad.

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #973 on: October 22, 2014, 05:09:41 am »
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You know, I am always happy when I see this thread has updated because you just consistently throw out the most bananas statements, Thrak. You can go to the gym without liking 'sports culture.' I go to the gym. I am about as far removed from sports culture as is humanly possible.

But more importantly... nobody told you to go to the gym! You jumped to that idea like a frog on crack. It is no wonder people have such a hard time having a conversation with you. I think you need to consider that sometimes people use comparisons to make a point, and also that not every suggestion we make is an order.

 
I allready exorcise at work, so that wont be needded anyways.

Well i dont always see that, its part of my handicap, i cant help that.

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Re: What if you cant ground yourself.
« Reply #974 on: October 22, 2014, 06:02:42 am »
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I allready exorcise at work, so that wont be needded anyways.

Well i dont always see that, its part of my handicap, i cant help that.

 
But i will try. :)

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