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Water and the Moon
« on: March 23, 2016, 04:03:00 pm »
I have a question on the correspondence course I'm doing; " why is water the element associated with the moon?" Although I can guess that it may have something to do with the tides and how the correspondences (fertility, emotion etc.) are similar for both, I'm unsure as to if there are further reasons for this association. I couldn't find anything on the internet other than reaffirmation that water is, indeed, associated with the moon. I'll use my brain from here, but if anyone could offer some enlightening insight on the subject it would be most appreciated.
Thanks to any and all replies made :)

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Re: Water and the Moon
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2016, 04:11:10 pm »
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It is worth keeping in mind that all correspondences are culturally mediated.  It's all 'someone made a connection here and found it meaningful' giving rise to 'people of this culture, generally, find that this connection is meaningful'.

Which isn't to say that deeper connections and more detailed reasonings don't exist, but the odds are pretty good that when dealing with mainstream symbolism, the stuff you think of that's part of that same mainstream is going to be what people are looking for, because those are their assumptions too.  (In the worst case, they may not even know that other correspondence options exist.)
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Re: Water and the Moon
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2016, 10:06:15 pm »
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I have a question on the correspondence course I'm doing; " why is water the element associated with the moon?" Although I can guess that it may have something to do with the tides and how the correspondences (fertility, emotion etc.) are similar for both, I'm unsure as to if there are further reasons for this association. I couldn't find anything on the internet other than reaffirmation that water is, indeed, associated with the moon. I'll use my brain from here, but if anyone could offer some enlightening insight on the subject it would be most appreciated.
Thanks to any and all replies made :)

 
I dont know how more insight this will be, but the moon grounds us all. It is one of the main forces or Mother of our Solar System. (Loosing my geo knowledge at the moment).

How I was taught, we came from the water. So in the water comes our cleansing, our birth, and our life from womb back to sea. The moon grounds "us with the tides".

In a broader sense, all liquid is associated with the moon from our blood (another association) to whatever else.

A lot of natual correspondences is basic geology and astonomy.

Hoping this is a valid post.

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Re: Water and the Moon
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2016, 03:07:21 am »
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Hoping this is a valid post.

 
Thanks to everyone for their replies. This has been helpful :)

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Re: Water and the Moon
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2016, 06:44:53 am »
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I have a question on the correspondence course I'm doing; " why is water the element associated with the moon?" Although I can guess that it may have something to do with the tides and how the correspondences (fertility, emotion etc.) are similar for both, I'm unsure as to if there are further reasons for this association. I couldn't find anything on the internet other than reaffirmation that water is, indeed, associated with the moon. I'll use my brain from here, but if anyone could offer some enlightening insight on the subject it would be most appreciated.
Thanks to any and all replies made :)

 
Like Darkhawk said, cultural meanings are the originators of most correspondences. My own UPG is that people associated sun with fire and the moon with what they saw as the opposite of fire; water. Some groups may have extrapolated further and associated water with women and pulled the moon into that association. There are male moon deities, but the associations that exist in mainstream culture are mostly female from what I can see.
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Re: Water and the Moon
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2016, 08:25:58 am »
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My own UPG is that people associated sun with fire and the moon with what they saw as the opposite of fire; water.


This, and I think even more so what the OP first mentioned: tides.

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Some groups may have extrapolated further and associated water with women and pulled the moon into that association.


To the extent that the moon is associated with women, I think a big reason for that is that the lunar cycle and a woman's menstrual cycle are of pretty much the same duration.

Only tangentially related: I was in the garden watching the full moon last night. On impulse, I broke out the boom box and cued up some music I only recently discovered: in Puccini's opera Turandot, there's a moment in the first act when the crowd onstage breaks into a tender song to the moon. It played like a prayer. Give it a try.

The first song sets the wheel in motion / The second is a song of love / The third song tells of Her devotion / The fourth cries joy from the sky above
The fifth song binds our fate to silence / and bids us live each moment well / The sixth unleashes rage and violence / The seventh song has truth to tell
The last song echoes through the ages / to ask its question all night long / And close the circle on these pages / These, the metamythos songs

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Re: Water and the Moon
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2016, 06:44:33 am »
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This, and I think even more so what the OP first mentioned: tides.



To the extent that the moon is associated with women, I think a big reason for that is that the lunar cycle and a woman's menstrual cycle are of pretty much the same duration.

Only tangentially related: I was in the garden watching the full moon last night. On impulse, I broke out the boom box and cued up some music I only recently discovered: in Puccini's opera Turandot, there's a moment in the first act when the crowd onstage breaks into a tender song to the moon. It played like a prayer. Give it a try.


 
Thank you so much for sharing that link. It was just what I needed this morning.
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Re: Water and the Moon
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2016, 03:49:43 pm »
Quote from: Nymree;188776
I have a question on the correspondence course I'm doing; " why is water the element associated with the moon?" Although I can guess that it may have something to do with the tides and how the correspondences (fertility, emotion etc.) are similar for both, I'm unsure as to if there are further reasons for this association. I couldn't find anything on the internet other than reaffirmation that water is, indeed, associated with the moon. I'll use my brain from here, but if anyone could offer some enlightening insight on the subject it would be most appreciated.
Thanks to any and all replies made :)
The moon can be seen traveling through the ancient waters of space. Her moods effect our moods. Thus she, like water, are linked with our emotion.

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Re: Water and the Moon
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2016, 08:46:47 pm »
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The moon can be seen traveling through the ancient waters of space. Her moods effect our moods. Thus she, like water, are linked with our emotion.

-Wimsaur..

 
Agreed!!! :)

The moon is said to control the currents of the ocean and all water (we are 70% water, lol). Even with nature it is said a moon calendar is better for survival and timing then the sun calendar. The more humanity becomes in touch with themselves, the more we will see the use of the moon calendar.

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