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« on: October 25, 2018, 03:21:53 pm »
Is Theurgy moral? How Theurgy deals with ''if I wish for sun my neighbour might wish for rain''. Isn't Theurgy kind of selfish?

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Re: Theurgy
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2018, 05:37:29 pm »
Is Theurgy moral?

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Re: Theurgy
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2018, 05:39:48 pm »
Is Theurgy moral? How Theurgy deals with ''if I wish for sun my neighbour might wish for rain''. Isn't Theurgy kind of selfish?

What is your definition of 'theurgy'?

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Re: Theurgy
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2018, 12:28:28 pm »
What is your definition of 'theurgy'?

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Is theurgy doing magic with the help of gods? To achieve a goal with the help of gods?

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Re: Theurgy
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2018, 02:19:20 pm »
Is Theurgy moral? How Theurgy deals with ''if I wish for sun my neighbour might wish for rain''. Isn't Theurgy kind of selfish?

By that standard literally any action anyone takes to advance their goals is kind of selfish. It's not like magic is the only thing that can have consequences that other people don't like.
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Re: Theurgy
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2018, 06:06:59 pm »
Is theurgy doing magic with the help of gods? To achieve a goal with the help of gods?

Not sure if you're asking us, or stating your own definition, but ...

Since theurgy involves asking gods for help, those gods can always say 'request denied' if they disapprove of what you're trying to do.

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Re: Theurgy
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2018, 01:56:39 pm »
Not sure if you're asking us, or stating your own definition, but ...

Since theurgy involves asking gods for help, those gods can always say 'request denied' if they disapprove of what you're trying to do.
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Re: Theurgy
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2018, 02:45:46 am »
Is Theurgy moral? How Theurgy deals with ''if I wish for sun my neighbour might wish for rain''. Isn't Theurgy kind of selfish?

I recommend you good theroretical book about theurgy. Iamblichus: Theurgia or On the Mysteries of Egypt. Is free on net, try google. Theurgy was the basic practice of ancient mysteries.
Hindu bhaktiyogis do sometimes the same. See Ramakrishna and his vision mother Kali for example.

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