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Telepathy, Mantras, and Meditation
« on: October 31, 2012, 11:32:33 am »
I wasn't entirely sure where to put this, nor was I entirely sure how to verbalise this, but, here goes.

It has been suggested to me that I practice meditation to help order my mind, and thus both have better control over, and better recognise, when other people's thoughts are "too loud" and seeping into my head.

I can't just simply concentrate on nothing, at least, not yet.

Do y'all have suggestions for mantras and/or meditation exercises I can start focusing on?

I'm slowly realising that just ignoring things is not going to work, and just helps to... traumatise/abuse?... my brain more than it already is, and I should try and work toward acceptance.

Still, the whole, I've had conversations with people but they never said anything aloud weirds me out a little.
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Re: Telepathy, Mantras, and Meditation
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 09:52:03 pm »
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Do y'all have suggestions for mantras and/or meditation exercises I can start focusing on?
 
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Still, the whole, I've had conversations with people but they never said anything aloud weirds me out a little.

 
Have you tried doing mediative tasks? Doing a repetitive or simple chore that allows you to focus on a task will sometimes make it easier for a person to let go of thoughts and be in a moment. I think of "wax on- wax off." While you are, say, dusting the baseboards, you can let all the thoughts come, acknowledge them, and then release them because you have a task to do. This can be much easier than quieting the mind completely.

Other than that, breathing exercises help kind of in the same way. If you are focusing on your breaths and counting them, your mind is occupied. Starting smaller might be better. Like 5 deep full breaths. A full inhale until you cannot inhale any more, then hold it for 5-7 beats, then exhale until you cannot exhale anymore and hold that for 5-7 beats. Then repeat five times. If closing your eyes is too distracting, let them rest on a  spot somewhere in front of you that doesn't require you to move your head to an uncomfortable position. If pesky thoughts still plague you, do more breaths.

If only for the time of breathing, you will be in those moments fully and that is a kind of active mediation that seems to work for some people. I specifically use this method when I am very stressed.

As for having the unspoken conversations, perhaps you're picking up on other cues, meta communication, and your brain is converting them to language. In any event, you can test out this thing. Ask a friend or a couple to help you out and see if they are having the same conversations you are having with them unspoken. When I am weirded out by things like that that's what I do. I do have a respect for mysteries but I also like a bit of demystification when something concerns my everyday living. There may not be much woo in it once things are examined, but there is plenty of woo in the world, plenty of mystery left.

It could totally be something else, but is there any harm in investigating it?

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Re: Telepathy, Mantras, and Meditation
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2012, 10:25:01 pm »
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It has been suggested to me that I practice meditation to help order my mind, and thus both have better control over, and better recognise, when other people's thoughts are "too loud" and seeping into my head. I can't just simply concentrate on nothing, at least, not yet. Do y'all have suggestions for mantras and/or meditation exercises I can start focusing on?
There's this Eastern New Age hypothesis that we have a body of subtle energy with skin (aura) and organs (chakra) and connections like veins (forgot what they're called, but it's the basis of acupuncture.) Just to become conscious of them is apparently like working out a muscle. (Except for the appearing part of apparently, because it's subtle energy. Anyway--)

Telepathy might come from an ungrounded center of power that corresponds to a physical location on your forehead. If you try to notice if there's what feels like a nerve glitch there-- something that tickles when nothing's touching it? Then maybe you can visualize a little ball of wild electricity that becomes more organized, ball-like, and smaller. Or a flower closing. Or, whatever says to you to "chill out" that isolated part of your body.

...Which is the advice I kept getting when my ajna was glitching, and maybe that's what worked for some people, but I found this next thing worked better for me. You can try to balance it out by doing a similar meditation to increase activity on the other end of the spine, meditating on your genitals and rectal area (no, seriously. Okay, I'll provide an alternative if that's still a little too taboo: )

Since you asked specifically for mantas, I once took a basic yoga and meditation class (Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's Art of Living) and found myself not sitting well with some of the philosophies, yet the mechanics of what they taught us were interesting and very useful. Om was one of the chants they dissected, saying that mantra was made of three sounds, not two. "Aah" that slides into "Oh" that becomes "Mm". The "Ah" is supposedly a mystical sound that activates the lower part of the spine, instincts, and the root chakras. My teachers there pointed out that it also works the other way around: if a person is threatened suddenly on the level of the present moment and survival, around the world people will usually scream, "Aaaah!!" When we feel grief or shame, blocking functions that correspond higher up the body, (so my teachers said,) then people are more likely to say something like, "Oh!" -- Maybe shorten the "m" of the "Om" because it sounds like you're very heady, ergo telepathy?

(Disclaimer: I'm not an energy-body healer or kundalini or reiki practitioner or anything of the sort, so if you do believe this hypothesis, I would recommend seeing someone who knows about it in much more detail... especially someone in a position to take a scan of the state of your specific energy body. I've even read somewhere that chakras only exist-- as seen by self-proclaimed ESPers-- in people who believe in them, that is, through this belief they manipulated their own energy bodies to have chakras.)
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Re: Telepathy, Mantras, and Meditation
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 11:41:54 pm »
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Have you tried doing mediative tasks? Doing a repetitive or simple chore that allows you to focus on a task will sometimes make it easier for a person to let go of thoughts and be in a moment. I think of "wax on- wax off." While you are, say, dusting the baseboards, you can let all the thoughts come, acknowledge them, and then release them because you have a task to do. This can be much easier than quieting the mind completely.

Other than that, breathing exercises help kind of in the same way. If you are focusing on your breaths and counting them, your mind is occupied. Starting smaller might be better. Like 5 deep full breaths. A full inhale until you cannot inhale any more, then hold it for 5-7 beats, then exhale until you cannot exhale anymore and hold that for 5-7 beats. Then repeat five times. If closing your eyes is too distracting, let them rest on a  spot somewhere in front of you that doesn't require you to move your head to an uncomfortable position. If pesky thoughts still plague you, do more breaths.


Thanks! I'll definitely be trying this. I was trying to do the breaths today at work, but I got a little distracted. Still, I think if I keep at it, it'll get easier/better over time.

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As for having the unspoken conversations, perhaps you're picking up on other cues, meta communication, and your brain is converting them to language. In any event, you can test out this thing. Ask a friend or a couple to help you out and see if they are having the same conversations you are having with them unspoken. When I am weirded out by things like that that's what I do. I do have a respect for mysteries but I also like a bit of demystification when something concerns my everyday living. There may not be much woo in it once things are examined, but there is plenty of woo in the world, plenty of mystery left.

It could totally be something else, but is there any harm in investigating it?


The conversations were never unspoken on my part. My side of the conversation was verbal, and I didn't realise there as anything odd about said conversations until I noticed I was getting really weird looks and they asked me how I knew what they were thinking. I'm not sure which of us felt more freaked out.
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Re: Telepathy, Mantras, and Meditation
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 11:47:19 pm »
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Telepathy might come from an ungrounded center of power that corresponds to a physical location on your forehead. If you try to notice if there's what feels like a nerve glitch there-- something that tickles when nothing's touching it? Then maybe you can visualize a little ball of wild electricity that becomes more organized, ball-like, and smaller. Or a flower closing. Or, whatever says to you to "chill out" that isolated part of your body.

...Which is the advice I kept getting when my ajna was glitching, and maybe that's what worked for some people, but I found this next thing worked better for me. You can try to balance it out by doing a similar meditation to increase activity on the other end of the spine, meditating on your genitals and rectal area (no, seriously. Okay, I'll provide an alternative if that's still a little too taboo: )


Not taboo. :) I haven't worked with chakras, yet. I know I'll be doing that in my massage therapy course, as well, but I'm interested in it aside from that.

When you say balance it out with a meditation on the genital area... are you meaning that you do the meditations simultaneously, or one after the other, or not even necessarily connected?

I get what you mean about the nerve glitch, though! That's fascinating... How exactly does that work/what does it imply? I've tried googling chakras and, quite frankly, felt a little overwhelmed and unsure where to start...

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Since you asked specifically for mantas, I once took a basic yoga and meditation class (Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's Art of Living) and found myself not sitting well with some of the philosophies, yet the mechanics of what they taught us were interesting and very useful. Om was one of the chants they dissected, saying that mantra was made of three sounds, not two. "Aah" that slides into "Oh" that becomes "Mm". The "Ah" is supposedly a mystical sound that activates the lower part of the spine, instincts, and the root chakras. My teachers there pointed out that it also works the other way around: if a person is threatened suddenly on the level of the present moment and survival, around the world people will usually scream, "Aaaah!!" When we feel grief or shame, blocking functions that correspond higher up the body, (so my teachers said,) then people are more likely to say something like, "Oh!" -- Maybe shorten the "m" of the "Om" because it sounds like you're very heady, ergo telepathy?


Hrm. I may test that out. I tend not to believe hypotheses until I"ve tested them, so I have a better idea about what they mean/entail. ;)

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(Disclaimer: I'm not an energy-body healer or kundalini or reiki practitioner or anything of the sort, so if you do believe this hypothesis, I would recommend seeing someone who knows about it in much more detail... especially someone in a position to take a scan of the state of your specific energy body. I've even read somewhere that chakras only exist-- as seen by self-proclaimed ESPers-- in people who believe in them, that is, through this belief they manipulated their own energy bodies to have chakras.)


Eeps. I'd have to find someone, and see what that would entail.
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Re: Telepathy, Mantras, and Meditation
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2012, 01:06:50 am »
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When you say balance it out with a meditation on the genital area... are you meaning that you do the meditations simultaneously, or one after the other, or not even necessarily connected?

The idea would be that you pick up on other people's thoughts, because your head-centered power (third eye or ajna) is naturally overactive. The best way I've found to manage an overactive ajna is to increase activity in the other chakras, so that they're all equally active and it balances out. (Better than directly decreasing activity in that one overactive area.)

You could also just get in the habit of noting the thoughts that arise, whether they're yours or somebody else's. What I've heard of Vipassana Buddhism appears to take the stance that all of our thoughts and emotions are conditioned, they come from outside, and none of them are really ours or us. Over-identification with "this thought is my thought from my brain so this is me" is considered an illusion. Whether that's a belief you'll take to or not, a regular practice of noting thoughts during meditation, I've heard (and experienced) can carry onto greater spiritual stability when you are not meditating. It doesn't even have complicated metaphors about the number of flower petals on a spiritual organ.

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I get what you mean about the nerve glitch, though! That's fascinating... How exactly does that work/what does it imply? I've tried googling chakras and, quite frankly, felt a little overwhelmed and unsure where to start...

New Ageism streamlined them quite a bit. The way this Eastern tradition is reduced and smooshed in with Western mysticism is bound to draw criticism about how what an inaccurate reference to spirit work that it could really be... but, coming from the stance of energy work is energy work, I think it's a much better primer for beginners than a lot of what's floating around out there... including the Sanskrit Vedas, which is probably the most raw and original and sophisticatedly detailed information about this and so so so many other things.

Actually, I'll PM you.

As for, well, my UPG of it? Perhaps the physical nerves are slightly more responsive to our mental state than we think they are. Or, perhaps what we perceive as the physicality of a thing is looser than it really is.
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Re: Telepathy, Mantras, and Meditation
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2012, 07:45:19 am »
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Do y'all have suggestions for mantras and/or meditation exercises I can start focusing on?

Focused meditation is very good - in this you will focus on an object - such as a crystal, and stay focused on it and clear your mind of anything else. Whenever you find your mind wandering, you gently put it back on the object.

Guided meditation is very nice - especially if you're someone who doesn't like focused meditation and perhaps falls asleep when you try to meditate. You can find guided meditation CD's on line.  They walk you through meditation scenarios(as opposed to walking you meditation exercises like breathing,etc.) With guided, you do things like imagine a pool of water and at the bottom is a shiny penny and you jump in and keep going down and get the penny and notice everything around you, feel the cold water, etc.  

The brain can't tell the difference between real and imagined, so guided meditation is good for you because it can give you a break(vacation) from stress in your life. Suddenly imagining yourself in another place and smelling and feeling it - ie under autumn trees will instantly stop fear or a panic attack.

Meditating on a subject like a word or idea is also good because it helps you solve problems. Ie. you can meditate on why you don't like someone, or why you did something. Some people with very active minds, prefer that kind of meditation because their thoughts are encouraged to wander.

In Buddhism we do many different meditations. One of my favorites is the be here now meditation where we stop and feel and hear all around us and clear our minds of other thoughts. We experience the right now. I even do that for 1 minute when I have no time to sit down and meditate. Ie. Sitting at my desk at work.
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Re: Telepathy, Mantras, and Meditation
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2012, 09:30:46 pm »
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You could also just get in the habit of noting the thoughts that arise, whether they're yours or somebody else's. What I've heard of Vipassana Buddhism appears to take the stance that all of our thoughts and emotions are conditioned, they come from outside, and none of them are really ours or us. Over-identification with "this thought is my thought from my brain so this is me" is considered an illusion. Whether that's a belief you'll take to or not, a regular practice of noting thoughts during meditation, I've heard (and experienced) can carry onto greater spiritual stability when you are not meditating. It doesn't even have complicated metaphors about the number of flower petals on a spiritual organ.


Ah. I've stopped trying that, lately, now that I've realised that some thoughts are not my thoughts, and some things that I would have sworn up and down were spoken comments, were just thoughts... I wasn't sure if I"d be acknowledging my thoughts or someone else's, and wasn't sure if it would matter.

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Actually, I'll PM you.


Got it! Thank you muchly!

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Focused meditation is very good - in this you will focus on an object - such as a crystal, and stay focused on it and clear your mind of anything else. Whenever you find your mind wandering, you gently put it back on the object.


That I can definitely handle, because I have something to come back to/concentrate on. Are there any crystals that might be better than others?

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The brain can't tell the difference between real and imagined, so guided meditation is good for you because it can give you a break(vacation) from stress in your life. Suddenly imagining yourself in another place and smelling and feeling it - ie under autumn trees will instantly stop fear or a panic attack.


I'll have to try some guided meditations, then. I have a couple scripts lying around that I know of... but that makes sense about stopping fear or panic attack.

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In Buddhism we do many different meditations. One of my favorites is the be here now meditation where we stop and feel and hear all around us and clear our minds of other thoughts. We experience the right now. I even do that for 1 minute when I have no time to sit down and meditate. Ie. Sitting at my desk at work.


I'll have to try that at work tomorrow. We'll see how it goes.

I can't bring my hematite, because I have massage therapy class after work, and that requires me to have energy, so I need something else to do.
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