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Teachers.
« on: December 15, 2011, 12:52:58 pm »
I was recently given the offer of having a teacher in a voodoo/magic capacity. And of course, I'm so ready for that! It would be neat to have someone older and wiser than me helping out. The teaching will be over the Internet since she lives on the other side of the country.

I was just wondering how many people have had teachers, have done it via the Internet, and your thoughts/impressions/feelings about said teacher(s).
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Re: Teachers.
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2011, 03:36:17 pm »
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I was recently given the offer of having a teacher in a voodoo/magic capacity. And of course, I'm so ready for that! It would be neat to have someone older and wiser than me helping out. The teaching will be over the Internet since she lives on the other side of the country.

I was just wondering how many people have had teachers, have done it via the Internet, and your thoughts/impressions/feelings about said teacher(s).

 
I have not had a teacher as such, either in person or online.  So far, everything I do has come from reading and occasionally talking with other people.  I would love to have a teacher, as long as I was getting a good vibe from them.  That seems like something that would be easier to judge in person than online, but I'd be open to online teaching as well under the right circumstances.
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Re: Teachers.
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2011, 03:49:11 pm »
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I was recently given the offer of having a teacher in a voodoo/magic capacity. And of course, I'm so ready for that! It would be neat to have someone older and wiser than me helping out. The teaching will be over the Internet since she lives on the other side of the country.

I was just wondering how many people have had teachers, have done it via the Internet, and your thoughts/impressions/feelings about said teacher(s).


It's been a long time since I've had a proper teacher, and never online.  (Enlightening conversations with Darkhawk notwithstanding, of course.)  My first teacher was my mother, and when I came out she forbade me to practice and stopped teaching me because I "walked with the darkness" and had no business partaking of the family occult tradition.  My second, somewhat overlapping, was a much more casual relationship with a friend's mother when I was a teenager, and mostly was a transmission of a few techniques rather than a real mentoring relationship.

I took on a student myself once, in college, but he started insisting I teach him "magical combat" so he could go out-of-body and fight demons on the astral plane, or somesuch, and when I told him that that was a terrible idea and that I had no intention of helping him in that pursuit, he threw a tantrum and said I was "just trying to limit his power" and "jealous" that he might surpass me, and just wanted to keep all the power for myself, etc., etc., so that was the end of that.  (I am not even kidding, it was some serious Anakin Skywalker nonsense.  Bless his heart, he's settled down since then.)

The only other time I took on a student was for the length of a long weekend, and it was only in the ways of speaking with the dead--it was a personal favor to a mutual friend, because the student in question was terrified that she was delusional and needed to be reassured that really, she was just hearing dead folk.  (She was, and it was a real treat to see her face when she realized I was hearing exactly what she was hearing and there was nothing wrong with her.)  That one ended when, we, ah, ended up in bed together.  So, er.  
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Re: Teachers.
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2011, 06:47:36 pm »
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I was just wondering how many people have had teachers, have done it via the Internet, and your thoughts/impressions/feelings about said teacher(s).

The last time I had a real teacher was well before the Internet so I can't really comment on how well Internet teaching works.
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Re: Teachers.
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2011, 01:04:29 am »
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The last time I had a real teacher was well before the Internet so I can't really comment on how well Internet teaching works.

 
Here's my take on the whole online thing (and this is actually meant for everyone, not just as a reply to Randall):

When it comes to teachers, my preference is always to do it face-to-face.  Several reasons:

1) I much prefer a normal conversation.  
2) It's too easy to have miscommunication if you're only going off text.  Words are really a minor part of conversation - body language, tone of voice, rate of speech - are all things we don't often think of as communication but they actually play a bigger part than the words we choose.  
3) When instructing, a teacher should be trying to notice how well the student is understanding and comprehending the lesson, and this is much harder to do if the teacher is not present to observe how the information is received and if it was processed correctly.
4) As a student, I want to know the person I'm learning from.  Just because a person says they want to teach me, doesn't mean they have my best interests at heart.  I've learned this lesson the hard way, and through repetition. :(  
 

However, some teaching is better than nothing of course. ;)  In many cases it might not even be possible if there is no one nearby.  Also, time can be limited due to life's other annoyances.:dwink:  If my only option was through an online format, I'd want to be at least able to do a video chat or chat with them over the phone.  If you already know this person and like them, then that's great and I'd jump at the chance to learn.  But if I had an option, I'd still rather work in person, or as close to in person as possible with them.  

But that's just me. :)  Perhaps I'm just Old School this way.
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Re: Teachers.
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2011, 09:05:12 am »
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I was recently given the offer of having a teacher in a voodoo/magic capacity. And of course, I'm so ready for that! It would be neat to have someone older and wiser than me helping out. The teaching will be over the Internet since she lives on the other side of the country.

I was just wondering how many people have had teachers, have done it via the Internet, and your thoughts/impressions/feelings about said teacher(s).

 
Had teachers yes.

As to the Internet, I think it depends very much on what is being taught, and how. Talking about information (resources, data, facts, etc.) is relatively easy online. Talking about things like moving energy, detailed ritual practice, etc. is a lot harder.

There's also the question of how fluently the teacher is able to communicate online, and how quickly (and how much time they have for it). Someone who takes 40 minutes to write a 2 paragraph email is going to be able to convey a lot less information than someone who can write the same thing in 5 - especially if they only have an hour or so a week for the interaction with you.

I've got stuff on my Seeking site, some of which I suspect you've already considered, but in case it's helpful, part one and part two, which is specific about some of the differences between online learning and face to face.
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Re: Teachers.
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2011, 09:06:25 am »
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My religion's take on this is .. well, a bit sideways.

It's ALL been online.  There's been a few face to face meetings, but pretty much anyone can pick up my work and go from there.  If I'm doing it right, you don't even need to talk to me ever.  (though you should, 'cause I'm great!)

I honestly find it easier to deal with the subject online - I grew up in a "we don't talk about religion" worldview, and discussing it face to face always feels a bit like talking about my sex life.  Just .. not appropriate.  Which makes any useful transfer of information in that context just a bit tricky! :D:

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Re: Teachers.
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2011, 07:14:19 pm »
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I was just wondering how many people have had teachers, have done it via the Internet, and your thoughts/impressions/feelings about said teacher(s).


I'm able to teach, but I don't have any students yet.

I often communicate with my teacher via email, as she lives 2 hours away and I see her once a month if I'm lucky. I think it might be difficult to teach the finer points of energy work online, but with stuff like Skype readily available, where you can have voice and video, most things should be doable.

Having said that, I think it's as important (if not more so) to evaluate a potential teacher. Do they sound competent? Can they honestly answer your questions (and have the cojones to admit when they don't know something)? Will they be available via Skype or telephone, or email only? Will you schedule regular times to meet?

That last bit is rather important, because it's just so easy to ignore stuff online. If your teacher vanishes on you, and you only have an email address as a point of contact, I think that would be very unsatisfying, both from a personal point of view and from a training standpoint.

And I think you'll also want to ask specifically about things that can't be taught online, like energy work... how does a distance teacher sense that you're doing things right? Will you be expected to come see said teacher at certain points in your training? If so, is that at your expense? etc, etc.

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