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Beginning magic
« on: July 18, 2013, 05:20:13 am »
so I have been instructed (by the bossiest Goddess in the Universe) to start doing magic. When I pointed out that I don't know anything about magic I got a terse "learn" as a reply.

so I'm looking for books, web sites, or tips on beginning magic.

For background I'm interested in herbs, candle magic, folk magic (and folklore), weather magic* (I am an uncannily accurate weather forecaster.) Not really interested in ceremonial magic stuff and I don't work overtly with the four elements (in that I don't make sure they are represented in all magic/ritual work)


Also is it okay to talk about magical workings as I am doing them? some say this makes them less effective but I don't understand why this would be?


Thanks!

*That is, not doing magic  to affect the weather but using the weather in magic
« Last Edit: July 18, 2013, 05:22:13 am by Sarah »
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Re: Beginning magic
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2013, 06:15:26 am »
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Also is it okay to talk about magical workings as I am doing them? some say this makes them less effective but I don't understand why this would be?

 
From my POV it is quite okay to talk about magic this way, as I read it, it is your way of getting a better understanding of magic which in the end should enhance the effect of it. I have a question: how well are you at sensing the energies within you and around you?
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Re: Beginning magic
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2013, 06:19:59 am »
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From my POV it is quite okay to talk about magic this way, as I read it, it is your way of getting a better understanding of magic which in the end should enhance the effect of it. I have a question: how well are you at sensing the energies within you and around you?

 
I would say I'm pretty good at sensing energies.I have sensory overload issues (which I manage but they are still there) so I sense pretty much everything
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Re: Beginning magic
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2013, 06:42:35 am »
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I would say I'm pretty good at sensing energies.I have sensory overload issues (which I manage but they are still there) so I sense pretty much everything

 
For some years I played around (I say played around because I never did it seriously) and explored what magic is. Today I do not do magic for what I noticed is that it simply is a way of manifesting energy. The way a scent, certain combination of words or a color can evoke something within you, then the point of various tools in magic rituals is simply to evoke a certain mood in you where you are better at manifesting the energies the way you wish them to.

Many successful people in the modern day has come there through some kind of magic simply by being strong at visualizing their dreams and manifesting them through intent. But it is important to add that one should choose the path that comes natural to oneself, if one is not good at this but can do it through rituals, then that is an equally worthy path to take. Repeating mantras is also a way some find valuable, but basically in anything practice makes perfect.

It is good that you are capable of sensing the energies, so my advise is to play (this is not saying not be careful where you place you feet) with the world of magic and notice the energies and find the path of magic that works best for you. Hope any of it is helpful ;)
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Re: Beginning magic
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2013, 07:54:14 am »
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so I'm looking for books, web sites, or tips on beginning magic.

I've been recommending Mastering Witchcraft by Paul Huson for over 40 years now.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2013, 07:54:49 am by RandallS »
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Re: Beginning magic
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2013, 08:20:06 am »
Quote from: maybeimawitch;116008

Also is it okay to talk about magical workings as I am doing them? some say this makes them less effective but I don't understand why this would be?


The basic idea about not talking about magic after you do it is two fold:

First, psychologically speaking, there is a lot of potential power in doing something and then letting it go. (Generally, in this case, one does not talk about it until either the thing works or one is certain it's not going to: at that point, you can do further analysis and figure out what happened.)

Second, psychologically speaking again, it is awfully easy to undermine yourself (or to hear something from someone else when you discuss it, that can undermine your belief in the working.)

So, for example, you might do a spell for something, but then you bring it up. Why are you bringing it up? You may well feel, at some level, that you're not sure it's going to work (because that's why you want to talk about it: to reassure yourself it is, or to make sure you did everything you could to make it work.)

This is totally human, and totally reasonable - but it is also exceedingly simple for that to shift from "checking in" to "did it really go well?" And that just gets even easier when you're talking to other people, and especially in more than a very tightly knit setting.

So, for example, I will sometimes talk about ongoing magical work with a couple of close friends, who are extremely familiar with my practice, my life, and my current goals. But I don't talk about it generally, and I certainly wouldn't talk about it somewhere like this forum (much as I enjoy talking to everyone here!) because the chances of someone saying something dismissive or questioning in the wrong way is just too complicated to manage properly.

(and there's a lot of stuff where in one mood, when I'm well-rested and my health is not throwing fits and the weather doesn't have a pressure system forming, when a particular comment might be fine. And at another time - I've had less sleep, I'm stressed about something else, I've got a growing headache, whatever, that exact same comment might make me start doubting whether what I was doing was working.)

Either way, I try to keep that out of my magic. I do usually check in briefly (since a lot of what I do magically is longer-term work, and redirecting some of the energy after a month or two often makes sense) and make brief notes, but I do them privately, and I try to only do it at times when doing so will reinforce the work, not potentially diminish it.
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