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Author Topic: hello everyone :)  (Read 139 times)

pehirstxwadan97

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hello everyone :)
« on: February 09, 2018, 05:49:03 pm »
Hi everyone, :)
i hope youre all ok.
I can't exactly call myself a "new" pagan because i've been pagan for about a year now.
To cut a very long story short. I was bought up as a muslim, but being part of the trans community caused me a lot of grief and my mother used her religion as weapon against me and was very abusive. Luckily as i got older i was able to have contact with LGBT Muslims (including my boyfriend and my best friend also) and also with other liberal muslims in general and was able to see a side of the community i hadnt before.
   I realised that according to many muslims, the verses that were used against me were only meant to be applied under specific circumstances and should be understood in those contexts. I had heard this before but it was usually said in a reactionary and defensive sense. so it was comforting to see people who genuinely believed it and were willing to confront spiritual abuse based upon islamic sources and be accepting of people.
I ultimately decided that whilst i could appreciate these liberal muslims using their religion to inspire them to do good, i didnt agree with their interpretation. If i had found out that the verses that were used against me never existed i may have remained muslim, but instead i found out the verses were indeed real but there were excuses made for them. excuses that werent good enough in my eyes.
I had always felt a strange connection to the idea of polytheism and paganism ever since i found out what it was. It just seemed so much more just to me, and moreover i actually FELT something when i listened to pagan music or tried praying to the Gods those first few times. I felt like i was truly alive- in body and soul.
Anyway, nowadays at times i find myself feeling bitter.
I feel i am always caught in the middle, either having my story hijacked by someone on the right, or being called a bigot by those on the left. or having some extremist tell me i should be killed or that im the devil incarnate. ....
Suffice to say it gets a tad tiring....
but now im here and hoping to move on to a better future.
take care,
PX,

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Re: hello everyone :)
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2018, 08:34:06 pm »
Hi everyone, :)
i hope youre all ok.
I can't exactly call myself a "new" pagan because i've been pagan for about a year now.
To cut a very long story short. I was bought up as a muslim, but being part of the trans community caused me a lot of grief and my mother used her religion as weapon against me and was very abusive. Luckily as i got older i was able to have contact with LGBT Muslims (including my boyfriend and my best friend also) and also with other liberal muslims in general and was able to see a side of the community i hadnt before.
   I realised that according to many muslims, the verses that were used against me were only meant to be applied under specific circumstances and should be understood in those contexts. I had heard this before but it was usually said in a reactionary and defensive sense. so it was comforting to see people who genuinely believed it and were willing to confront spiritual abuse based upon islamic sources and be accepting of people.
I ultimately decided that whilst i could appreciate these liberal muslims using their religion to inspire them to do good, i didnt agree with their interpretation. If i had found out that the verses that were used against me never existed i may have remained muslim, but instead i found out the verses were indeed real but there were excuses made for them. excuses that werent good enough in my eyes.
I had always felt a strange connection to the idea of polytheism and paganism ever since i found out what it was. It just seemed so much more just to me, and moreover i actually FELT something when i listened to pagan music or tried praying to the Gods those first few times. I felt like i was truly alive- in body and soul.
Anyway, nowadays at times i find myself feeling bitter.
I feel i am always caught in the middle, either having my story hijacked by someone on the right, or being called a bigot by those on the left. or having some extremist tell me i should be killed or that im the devil incarnate. ....
Suffice to say it gets a tad tiring....
but now im here and hoping to move on to a better future.
take care,
PX,

Hello and welcome!
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Re: hello everyone :)
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2018, 05:27:55 am »
Hi everyone, :)
i hope youre all ok.
I can't exactly call myself a "new" pagan because i've been pagan for about a year now.
To cut a very long story short. I was bought up as a muslim, but being part of the trans community caused me a lot of grief and my mother used her religion as weapon against me and was very abusive. Luckily as i got older i was able to have contact with LGBT Muslims (including my boyfriend and my best friend also) and also with other liberal muslims in general and was able to see a side of the community i hadnt before.
   I realised that according to many muslims, the verses that were used against me were only meant to be applied under specific circumstances and should be understood in those contexts. I had heard this before but it was usually said in a reactionary and defensive sense. so it was comforting to see people who genuinely believed it and were willing to confront spiritual abuse based upon islamic sources and be accepting of people.
I ultimately decided that whilst i could appreciate these liberal muslims using their religion to inspire them to do good, i didnt agree with their interpretation. If i had found out that the verses that were used against me never existed i may have remained muslim, but instead i found out the verses were indeed real but there were excuses made for them. excuses that werent good enough in my eyes.
I had always felt a strange connection to the idea of polytheism and paganism ever since i found out what it was. It just seemed so much more just to me, and moreover i actually FELT something when i listened to pagan music or tried praying to the Gods those first few times. I felt like i was truly alive- in body and soul.
Anyway, nowadays at times i find myself feeling bitter.
I feel i am always caught in the middle, either having my story hijacked by someone on the right, or being called a bigot by those on the left. or having some extremist tell me i should be killed or that im the devil incarnate. ....
Suffice to say it gets a tad tiring....
but now im here and hoping to move on to a better future.
take care,
PX,

Hello, welcome! I hope you have a nice time here and some interesting discussions.
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Re: hello everyone :)
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2018, 08:15:51 am »
Hi everyone, :)
i hope youre all ok.
I can't exactly call myself a "new" pagan because i've been pagan for about a year now.
To cut a very long story short. I was bought up as a muslim, but being part of the trans community caused me a lot of grief and my mother used her religion as weapon against me and was very abusive. Luckily as i got older i was able to have contact with LGBT Muslims (including my boyfriend and my best friend also) and also with other liberal muslims in general and was able to see a side of the community i hadnt before.
   I realised that according to many muslims, the verses that were used against me were only meant to be applied under specific circumstances and should be understood in those contexts. I had heard this before but it was usually said in a reactionary and defensive sense. so it was comforting to see people who genuinely believed it and were willing to confront spiritual abuse based upon islamic sources and be accepting of people.
I ultimately decided that whilst i could appreciate these liberal muslims using their religion to inspire them to do good, i didnt agree with their interpretation. If i had found out that the verses that were used against me never existed i may have remained muslim, but instead i found out the verses were indeed real but there were excuses made for them. excuses that werent good enough in my eyes.
I had always felt a strange connection to the idea of polytheism and paganism ever since i found out what it was. It just seemed so much more just to me, and moreover i actually FELT something when i listened to pagan music or tried praying to the Gods those first few times. I felt like i was truly alive- in body and soul.
Anyway, nowadays at times i find myself feeling bitter.
I feel i am always caught in the middle, either having my story hijacked by someone on the right, or being called a bigot by those on the left. or having some extremist tell me i should be killed or that im the devil incarnate. ....
Suffice to say it gets a tad tiring....
but now im here and hoping to move on to a better future.
take care,
PX,
PX, welcome to the Cauldron. We have many walks of life here and welcome debate and discussion on different topics. I hope that you'll find inspiration, interpretations, and answers here that will help you on your path.

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Re: hello everyone :)
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Re: hello everyone :)
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2018, 11:55:08 am »
Anyway, nowadays at times i find myself feeling bitter.
I feel i am always caught in the middle, either having my story hijacked by someone on the right, or being called a bigot by those on the left. or having some extremist tell me i should be killed or that im the devil incarnate. ....
Suffice to say it gets a tad tiring....
but now im here and hoping to move on to a better future.
take care,
PX,

Welcome! I agree with you on the entire 'holy text' issue. There are so many interpretations that, to me, it makes the texts essentially meaningless, and when you base a religion on the idea that it is the infallible word of God... well, it's not my thing, anyway. Not that the same quibbling doesn't happen over mythology, but it carries a lot less weight since they aren't the words of the gods.

Best wishes for your path, and I hope the board can be helpful to you!

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Remember how long you’ve been putting this off, how many extensions the gods gave you, and you didn’t use them. At some point you have to recognize what world it is that you belong to; what power rules it and from what source you spring; that there is a limit to the time assigned to you, and if you don’t use it to free yourself it will be gone and will never return. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, Book II

 

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