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Re: Teen Girl Exorcism Squad
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2012, 07:14:34 pm »
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Re: Teen Girl Exorcism Squad
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2012, 11:32:05 pm »
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Well, yeah-- because they or others around them might get hurt.  It might not just stop at a "Hey, there's bad crap out here, girlies! GO away!"

 
I hate to say it, but that's kinda the point I'm trying to make.  While I do agree with Randall that the chances of them actually attracting something that would bother with them is probably remote.   However, it strikes me as very arrogant and irresponsible to put a teen in a position like this.  

It would take someone getting hurt to show them that maybe a bit more caution and respect is a good idea.  I have a hard time feeling pity for someone that allows children to be put in harm's way.   I'm sure they think their faith will protect them, maybe it will, maybe it will not.  I'd rather see some discouraging of this kind of action.

The whole concept is kind of disgusting to me on several levels.  Yes, I'm aware that this post probably makes me look like a complete ass, but honestly if they want to do this and have not considered that something bad could happen, they need a clue-by-4.
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Re: Teen Girl Exorcism Squad
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2012, 12:17:22 am »
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I hate to say it, but that's kinda the point I'm trying to make.  While I do agree with Randall that the chances of them actually attracting something that would bother with them is probably remote.   However, it strikes me as very arrogant and irresponsible to put a teen in a position like this.  


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It would take someone getting hurt to show them that maybe a bit more caution and respect is a good idea.  I have a hard time feeling pity for someone that allows children to be put in harm's way.   I'm sure they think their faith will protect them, maybe it will, maybe it will not.  I'd rather see some discouraging of this kind of action.


The whole concept is kind of disgusting to me on several levels.  Yes, I'm aware that this post probably makes me look like a complete ass, but honestly if they want to do this and have not considered that something bad could happen, they need a clue-by-4.

 
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Re: Teen Girl Exorcism Squad
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2012, 08:30:53 am »
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I hate to say it, but that's kinda the point I'm trying to make.  While I do agree with Randall that the chances of them actually attracting something that would bother with them is probably remote.   However, it strikes me as very arrogant and irresponsible to put a teen in a position like this.  

17, 17, and 20 strikes me as old enough to make their own decisions on stuff like this.
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Re: Teen Girl Exorcism Squad
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2012, 11:49:30 am »
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Pretty much what I was going to say, but more concise.  Even if something bad DID happen, I seriously doubt it would be viewed as "Oh, no, we need to reconsider what we're doing, it's dangerous!"  More like, "They died/were hurt in the line of fire, onward Christian Soldiers!"
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Re: Teen Girl Exorcism Squad
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2012, 10:26:46 am »
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My family actually preformed 2 non Catholic exorcisms on me in my teen years. It involved putting me in a chair with them circled around me laying their hands on me and reading the Bible and praying for the demon to leave my body. It was so ridiculous I laughed. I feel bad now looking back at how mislead they are. I was depressed and suicidal, I needed medication. They would rather believe there was a demon than a health problem. Yet the same people are insulin dependent and some have gone on to have gastric bypass. I wonder why they didn't just lay hands and pray for the diabetes to leave their temples or for the weight to come off?

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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2012, 01:29:30 pm »
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My family actually preformed 2 non Catholic exorcisms on me in my teen years. It involved putting me in a chair with them circled around me laying their hands on me and reading the Bible and praying for the demon to leave my body. It was so ridiculous I laughed. I feel bad now looking back at how mislead they are. I was depressed and suicidal, I needed medication. They would rather believe there was a demon than a health problem. Yet the same people are insulin dependent and some have gone on to have gastric bypass. I wonder why they didn't just lay hands and pray for the diabetes to leave their temples or for the weight to come off?

Because those health problems had visible symptoms. Whereas depression and other mental health issues are "all in your head".

If there isn't a visible symptom, or a symptom can't be immediately discovered by a doctor, people tend to default to "you're imagining it", "you're faking it", or the old standby "you're possessed!"

My dad got the "you're faking it/you're imagining it" treatment when the migraines started, and when my dad first started experiencing DVTs, because the docs couldn't find the blood clot right away. (This was in the late 70's, and the military docs were.....less inclined to believe what he was telling them.)

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« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2012, 04:31:06 pm »
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My dad got the "you're faking it/you're imagining it" treatment when the migraines started,

I've experienced this very thing just in the last year or so.  My headaches and other symptoms just don't respond to medications.  So when the doctors run out of ideas, and they have to accept that they can't "fix" me, they actually start *blaming* me.  It's happened with almost every neurologist I've ever seen.

Medical terminology encourages this mindset.  If
a medication doesn't help me, the doctors record it as "patient failed [drug name]", when, from my perspective, the medication failed *me*.

And if I make the mistake of telling them that I'm depressed about being in literally constant pain, being unable to work, being a drain on my family's resources, etc., they immediately diagnose my headaches as a symptom of depression -- when it's really the other way around.  The depression is a symptom of the intractable pain and the resulting situation.

It baffles me.  But I've experienced it so many times, it's undeniable.  

At this point, I'm half convinced there really is an evil spirit inside my head. But I doubt that an exorcism would be any more effective than all those meds.  Maybe trepanning is the way to go.  ;)

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Re: Teen Girl Exorcism Squad
« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2012, 01:00:28 am »
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At this point, I'm half convinced there really is an evil spirit inside my head. But I doubt that an exorcism would be any more effective than all those meds.  Maybe trepanning is the way to go.  ;)

 
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Re: Teen Girl Exorcism Squad
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2012, 09:22:41 pm »
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-girl-exorcism-squad-arizona-girls-claim-cast/story?id=16074541#.T-nKYJFafir

 
I thought this was a joke when I saw the thread...sad to learn that it's not O_o

I've always been curious what would happen if someone, like myself, who does not believe in demons or an all-evil Satan or possession (although I pass no judgement on those who do) were exorcised. There are definitely funky things going on in my head, I have anxiety and anger problems, former depression problems - I'd probably be a candidate for one. I mean to say - do exorcisms only work if you believe they will/should?
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do exorcisms only work if you believe they will/should?

 
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That is my understanding of it, at least that's what I was told was essential from my days as a Catholic.

 
Got it. Makes sense. Also explains why they seem to be so successful.
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« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2012, 10:38:02 am »
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I thought this was a joke when I saw the thread...sad to learn that it's not O_o

I've always been curious what would happen if someone, like myself, who does not believe in demons or an all-evil Satan or possession (although I pass no judgement on those who do) were exorcised. There are definitely funky things going on in my head, I have anxiety and anger problems, former depression problems - I'd probably be a candidate for one. I mean to say - do exorcisms only work if you believe they will/should?

 
I think I heard somewhere (it may have been one the better documentaries on NatGeo, but take it with a bucket o' salt anyway) that exorcisms work on pretty much the same principles as hypnosis.


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I think I heard somewhere (it may have been one the better documentaries on NatGeo, but take it with a bucket o' salt anyway) that exorcisms work on pretty much the same principles as hypnosis.

 
That makes a lot of sense, too. Hypnosis would make them more difficult to fake and make them more...not believable, not reliable, not authentic, but something along those lines (I'm not sure of the word I'm looking for).
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