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Getting a seat
« on: September 23, 2012, 04:24:43 pm »
A fairly common aspect of death and dying in the Graeco-Roman world was the coin placed in the mouth to ensue a seat on Charon's ferryboat. The practice of placing coins in the mouth persisted until the Christianisation of the Empire and even to some extent afterwords.

So my question for the Hellenists and Cultores today is: What do you think of this practice? Do you intend to be buried/cremated with your coin tucked in your ghostly shirt-pocket or do you not subscribe to such a practice? Personally I'm very wary about not being buried with a denarius/suitable equivalent tucked underneath the tongue, lest I wander the banks of the Styx eternally. I'm actually rather paranoid about it.
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Re: Getting a seat
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 05:48:48 pm »
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So my question for the Hellenists and Cultores today is: What do you think of this practice? Do you intend to be buried/cremated with your coin tucked in your ghostly shirt-pocket or do you not subscribe to such a practice? Personally I'm very wary about not being buried with a denarius/suitable equivalent tucked underneath the tongue, lest I wander the banks of the Styx eternally. I'm actually rather paranoid about it.

I'll be buried with the coin, although I'm certainly not paranoid about it.
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Re: Getting a seat
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2012, 02:04:43 am »
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I'll be buried with the coin, although I'm certainly not paranoid about it.

 
This would be me as well. It's actually in the will (or whatever the document is called that says how your funeral should look)
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Re: Getting a seat
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2012, 09:47:19 am »
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This would be me as well. It's actually in the will (or whatever the document is called that says how your funeral should look)


Same here, too, and that's a really good idea to put that in your will/funeral arrangement document.

One of my ancient history professors brought up an interesting point the other day.  He thinks that the reason that coins were put into the mouth after death was actually to make sure that the mouth stays open after rigor mortis sets in.  Because if the individual was buried, there was a pipe running down from the outside of the sarcophagus/coffin/burial mound/whatever that ran to the mouth of the deceased so that they could directly receive libations.

The two (coin for Charon and coin for rigor mortis) aren't mutually exclusive, I don't think, but still an interesting point.
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Re: Getting a seat
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2012, 06:17:16 pm »
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A fairly common aspect of death and dying in the Graeco-Roman world was the coin placed in the mouth to ensue a seat on Charon's ferryboat. The practice of placing coins in the mouth persisted until the Christianisation of the Empire and even to some extent afterwords.

So my question for the Hellenists and Cultores today is: What do you think of this practice? Do you intend to be buried/cremated with your coin tucked in your ghostly shirt-pocket or do you not subscribe to such a practice? Personally I'm very wary about not being buried with a denarius/suitable equivalent tucked underneath the tongue, lest I wander the banks of the Styx eternally. I'm actually rather paranoid about it.


I wonder if Kharon accepts Canadian currency, because I'm in trouble if he doesn't!

Just kidding. I think it's more of a symbolic gesture for funeral rites, not something that is actually required to get into the afterlife.

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 10:26:54 pm »
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This would be me as well. It's actually in the will (or whatever the document is called that says how your funeral should look)

 
I want a coin placed under my coin as well.

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Re: Getting a seat
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2013, 05:36:12 pm »
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So my question for the Hellenists and Cultores today is: What do you think of this practice? Do you intend to be buried/cremated with your coin tucked in your ghostly shirt-pocket or do you not subscribe to such a practice?


As others here, I too wish to be cremated with a coin in my mouth. I actually managed to slip one into my grandfather’s pocket during the open casket ceremony.

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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2013, 08:57:17 pm »
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I want a coin placed under my coin as well.

 
I meant a coin under my tongue. I really need to check what I've written before posting.

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Re: Getting a seat
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2016, 07:45:31 pm »
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A fairly common aspect of death and dying in the Graeco-Roman world was the coin placed in the mouth to ensue a seat on Charon's ferryboat. The practice of placing coins in the mouth persisted until the Christianisation of the Empire and even to some extent afterwords.

So my question for the Hellenists and Cultores today is: What do you think of this practice? Do you intend to be buried/cremated with your coin tucked in your ghostly shirt-pocket or do you not subscribe to such a practice? Personally I'm very wary about not being buried with a denarius/suitable equivalent tucked underneath the tongue, lest I wander the banks of the Styx eternally. I'm actually rather paranoid about it.


both Molly and I have it in our wills to be buried with a coin in our mouths.  She is more worried about wandering aimlessly than I am, but it is of major concern to me as well.

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