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Delphic Maxims
« on: June 05, 2012, 05:23:12 pm »
Delphic Maxims

I currently work solely with a Greek pantheon and, whilst I am by no means a reconstuctionist, I feel it is important and respectful to understand them from their own cultural basis.

One of the things I am currently working through are the maxims and trying to see how they fit in to my current beliefs/path and I am really interested in hearing views from others. With that in mind I have a few questions I hope people will take the time to answer.

How important are the maxims within your own path?
Do you try to follow them or do you follow some and not others?
If the latter, how do you determine which ones to follow?
Do you personally believe they are still relevant to todays society? If so, why? If not, why not?
Are there any in particular you feel deserve a more detailed discussion?

At the moment I am not really in a position to answer these questions myself but it would be great to have a discussion with others who have given this more thought than I currently have.
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Re: Delphic Maxims
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2012, 05:40:13 pm »
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Delphic Maxims

I currently work solely with a Greek pantheon and, whilst I am by no means a reconstuctionist, I feel it is important and respectful to understand them from their own cultural basis.

One of the things I am currently working through are the maxims and trying to see how they fit in to my current beliefs/path and I am really interested in hearing views from others. With that in mind I have a few questions I hope people will take the time to answer.

How important are the maxims within your own path?
Do you try to follow them or do you follow some and not others?
If the latter, how do you determine which ones to follow?
Do you personally believe they are still relevant to todays society? If so, why? If not, why not?
Are there any in particular you feel deserve a more detailed discussion?

At the moment I am not really in a position to answer these questions myself but it would be great to have a discussion with others who have given this more thought than I currently have.


I think that overall they are a nice code of ethics, when concerning most of the day-to-day behavior.

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Re: Delphic Maxims
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2012, 06:31:32 pm »
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Delphic Maxims

How important are the maxims within your own path?
Do you try to follow them or do you follow some and not others?
If the latter, how do you determine which ones to follow?
Do you personally believe they are still relevant to todays society? If so, why? If not, why not?
Are there any in particular you feel deserve a more detailed discussion?

At the moment I am not really in a position to answer these questions myself but it would be great to have a discussion with others who have given this more thought than I currently have.


Until LittleWitchmagazine brought them to my attention in another thread I had not considered or known of them but for the three with which I was raised, so those three are all I can comment on and they have played a large role in my ill defined path and my life as a whole.

The two I have lived by are fairly common in translation: Know thyself and Nothing to Excess. My father began after dinner discussions with these often, and as I read the longer list I saw that many can be condensed into these two. He added to the second a flipside: Everything in Moderation. This is to encourage experience with control.

The third he used to joke about. It is the one about promises/guarantees leading to ruin - or just not to make them. He summed it up with a backwards kind of logic with the platitude sometimes: Never say never; and the more abstract: absolutes love entropy. Neither of us focused on this as much as the other two because if the other two were adhered to firmly then the third would be moot. However, it is the one that repeatedly kicks both of us in the pants!

Many of the others I've lately considered since being introduced to them are not ones that I can live by and also adhere to the first two which have become almost instinctual. Many others fit perfectly. So I guess those are my decision makers as to which ones I can live by.

I do not think some of them are fitting for today's world. Those that would have one take a right or wrong position on something I think obviate the Nothing to Excess maxim. For example, I do not love or loathe insolence. To do so would be excessive ego feeding for me. Sometimes the insolence of oneself or others can be a valuable clue for problem solving. It is not something to aspire to or to encourage, but it is not something to fear or hate either IMO just a symptom.


I am not a reconstructionist at the moment, and I hope I have not treaded where I do not belong. I have lived by those first two I mentioned in modern times, but do not know in process how the ancients would have done.

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Re: Delphic Maxims
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 12:47:13 am »
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How important are the maxims within your own path?


As I'm moving more and more towards a Hellenic Reconstructionist's path, the conscious practice of the Maxims becomes more and more important as well. Now, I have always followed the Maxims, although I wasn't always aware that my internal ethical code was so closely related to it.

Right now, the Maxims are my main connections to Hellenismos, next to Hellenic myth. I will try to go through all of them on my blog, Baring the Aegis and I wrote a bit about my views on them in this post.

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Do you try to follow them or do you follow some and not others?


I try to follow all, although not every single one can be adapted to my life. I don't have children so that pushes out a couple and I have no intention of ruling my wife (although I don't read the Maxim as such but more as a guideline to an honest and loyal relationship with your partner).

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Do you personally believe they are still relevant to todays society? If so, why? If not, why not?


Oh Gods, yes! The good thing is that the Maxims were written as general guidelines, not rules. They can be interpreted somewhat freely with in their bounds. The Maxims focus on family, on operating justly in society, on how faith should be practiced. They are good, honest, guidelines without a time limit.

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Are there any in particular you feel deserve a more detailed discussion?


All of them, really, when it comes to a positive discussion. I started making a list and realized I was copying down about 80 percent of them so this is a bit useless ;)

When it's in a more negative form, 'Rule your wife (Γυναικος αρχε)' comes to mind, as well as 'Be fond of fortune (Τυχην στεργε)' (as it seems to be interpreted as a get-out-of-jail-free-card for gaining as much as possible no matter what) but really, all are pretty clear to me.  
 
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Until LittleWitchmagazine brought them to my attention in another thread I had not considered or known of them but for the three with which I was raised, so those three are all I can comment on and they have played a large role in my ill defined path and my life as a whole.


Tee hee, sorry :P
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Re: Delphic Maxims
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 04:03:06 pm »
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Tee hee, sorry :P


I loved finding out about them! I am still considering them. Glad to be pointed to them! TY.

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