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Author Topic: I'm looking for an Irish God of the sky  (Read 4035 times)

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Re: I'm looking for an Irish God of the sky...
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2013, 12:11:28 pm »
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Yes, his name derives from the same PIE roots as Zeus, Dyaus Pater and other clear examples of sky gods in other cultures, so it's not implausible. It's just that Celtic deities never do just one thing or even just ten things.

 
Yeah and it seems to me when they do have a clearish cut role it's a communal role not a natural function role. Though dominion over a natural event / aspect may play into the communal role, I.E. Manannan Mac Lir as psychopomp + master of mist etc.

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Re: I'm looking for an Irish God of the sky...
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2013, 03:50:24 pm »
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Aye.
Maybe the real reason there's no specific sky god is that we can't see the sky here half the time with all the cloud XD XD :p


Yes, it does rain a lot on your island. I don't know that we had more than one totally clear day the whole ten days we were over there!

And this thread illustrates one reason I'm drawn to the Irish pantheon. They don't come off so much as simplistic archetypes. They're more like people. Well, I'm sure the Greek and Roman deities would come off the same if I were able to read the original source materials, instead of the basic "Intro to Mythology" stuff you read in school.

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Re: I'm looking for an Irish God of the sky...
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2013, 04:20:24 pm »
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Yes, it does rain a lot on your island. I don't know that we had more than one totally clear day the whole ten days we were over there!

And this thread illustrates one reason I'm drawn to the Irish pantheon. They don't come off so much as simplistic archetypes. They're more like people. Well, I'm sure the Greek and Roman deities would come off the same if I were able to read the original source materials, instead of the basic "Intro to Mythology" stuff you read in school.

Karen

 
That's typical Ireland for you XD

They do come off as more personable and of having a strong personality- likes, dislikes, etc :)
'You're my friend, and I love you- but you really look like a witch!!'

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Re: I'm looking for an Irish God of the sky...
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2013, 04:29:05 pm »
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They're more like people.

 
That's one thing I like a LOT about them. The Celts didn't really think that the Earth and the Sky and everything else NEEDED God/desses. The Celtic deities deal with human issues, cause we're the ones that need help in figuring out what the hell we're doing.

Cows make milk, pigs turn into bacon, and acorns become saplings all without help. But leave a human alone, and who knows what you'll end up with! :eek:

The sky doesn't need help being blue. On the other hand, neither do most humans. :ashamed:

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Re: I'm looking for an Irish God of the sky...
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2013, 06:50:55 pm »
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That's one thing I like a LOT about them. The Celts didn't really think that the Earth and the Sky and everything else NEEDED God/desses. The Celtic deities deal with human issues, cause we're the ones that need help in figuring out what the hell we're doing.

Cows make milk, pigs turn into bacon, and acorns become saplings all without help. But leave a human alone, and who knows what you'll end up with! :eek:

The sky doesn't need help being blue. On the other hand, neither do most humans. :ashamed:


Yeah, I agree that Celtic Deities are multi-dimensional and not really personifications of natural phenomena (Zeus=Thunder, Ares=War, Aphrodite=Love, etc).

That said, the closest I could get myself to Celtic Sky Deities is the Gaulish God Taranis, who is a sort of Thunder God, yet whom not a great deal is known about.

I have done some work with this God, and He does seem to have a stereo-typical "stormy" personality, but also seems to relate to sovereignty, kingship, and other things. (that is my personal experience of Taranis; others might not see him the same as I do, including scholarly sources).

I know Taranis is not an Irish God, as per the Original Poster's request, but he is the best I could do from my own experience working with Celtic Deities (including Gaulish Gods like Taranis).

Donal
« Last Edit: March 19, 2013, 06:54:26 pm by Donal »
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