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Working with Hades as patron god?
« on: July 20, 2011, 11:24:45 pm »
Is anyone working with Hades as a patron god? I have alot of questions

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Re: Working with Hades as patron god?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2011, 01:52:36 am »
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Is anyone working with Hades as a patron god? I have alot of questions


Hades has been my Patron for over 20 years, since I was 12. Ask away.:)
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2011, 03:09:50 am »
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Hades has been my Patron for over 20 years, since I was 12. Ask away.:)

 
Wow thats fascinating, Ive always been interested in Hades but i get put off with how dark he can be portrayed, What's your UPG on him? Also i read that the greeks didnt really worship hades. Is this true?

Sorry to dive in this topic, but Hades has popped in and out of my mind the past couple of months as well as Persephone.

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2011, 09:14:46 am »
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Hades has been my Patron for over 20 years, since I was 12. Ask away.:)


Well first of all, i think he is my patron. Kinda a weird story, but i prayed to the goddesses and gods one night to be chosen for a patron, and that they would come to me in my dreams. i was more focused on goddesses and hadnt even considered patron gods yet, so i was very surprised when Hades came into my dream that night.
I do not feel uncomfortable with the thought of Hades as my patron (much to the dismay of a few other people i have asked about it). I have always been fond of him. i already knew all the stories about it him and such, so that morning i started trying to find out how to worship and rituals for Hades, and all i could find was sacrificing black animals and banging my hands on the ground.
Any ideas? i read that lighting incense or a candle for him is really not his thing....so i am at a loss as to what to do.

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2011, 12:03:58 pm »
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Wow thats fascinating, Ive always been interested in Hades but i get put off with how dark he can be portrayed, What's your UPG on him? Also i read that the greeks didnt really worship hades. Is this true?

Sorry to dive in this topic, but Hades has popped in and out of my mind the past couple of months as well as Persephone.


It's ok-I for one don't mind.

Hades was never worshipped as other Greek Deities were as it was thought that to do so was to invite Him to take your life early. Personally, I don't agree with that at all (obviously!). I have never found him to be dark. Serious, yes. Dark, no. IMO, he doesn't need to take anyones life early. He will recieve them all sooner or later anyway.

To me, He is like a father, an older brother and a best friend all in one.
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 12:08:22 pm »
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Well first of all, i think he is my patron. Kinda a weird story, but i prayed to the goddesses and gods one night to be chosen for a patron, and that they would come to me in my dreams. i was more focused on goddesses and hadnt even considered patron gods yet, so i was very surprised when Hades came into my dream that night.
I do not feel uncomfortable with the thought of Hades as my patron (much to the dismay of a few other people i have asked about it). I have always been fond of him. i already knew all the stories about it him and such, so that morning i started trying to find out how to worship and rituals for Hades, and all i could find was sacrificing black animals and banging my hands on the ground.
Any ideas? i read that lighting incense or a candle for him is really not his thing....so i am at a loss as to what to do.


I find that He will accept any ritual that you wish to dedicate to Him. I think that all He requires is that you are truly sincere about it. He doesn't appreciate being picked up and put back down like an old toy. He is the most amazing Patron that I could have ever asked for, but He is certainly not the most patient or forgiving, especially if He knows that you know that you could do better if you try. I found that out the hard and painful way.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2011, 01:11:16 pm »
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I find that He will accept any ritual that you wish to dedicate to Him. I think that all He requires is that you are truly sincere about it. He doesn't appreciate being picked up and put back down like an old toy. He is the most amazing Patron that I could have ever asked for, but He is certainly not the most patient or forgiving, especially if He knows that you know that you could do better if you try. I found that out the hard and painful way.


could maybe elaborate on what i can be doing better at? I am kinda new to paganism and the idea of working WITH gods/esses. You obviously know him better than i do at this point, could you give me some ideas or an introduction or something. How can i incorporate him into my daily life and such. What pleases him? etc...

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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2011, 09:55:35 am »
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Also i read that the greeks didnt really worship hades. Is this true?

 
Yes, the Greeks were afraid of death and would avoid mentioning Hades or Persephone by name, as it was believed it was like invoking death itself. Death was considered frightening, dark, and bleak, not to mention a major cause of miasma (pollution). Neither Hades or Persephone were "evil" deities like the Christian idea of the Devil in Hell, they were just gods of the bleak and depressing world of the dead, and not concerned with the living (except for Persephone when she returned to her mother during the fertile season).

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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2011, 10:41:27 am »
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Wow thats fascinating, Ive always been interested in Hades but i get put off with how dark he can be portrayed, What's your UPG on him? Also i read that the greeks didnt really worship hades. Is this true?

Sorry to dive in this topic, but Hades has popped in and out of my mind the past couple of months as well as Persephone.


I'm also sorry to dive into this topic (I can't find the Hellestic/Greek recronstructionest topics on here--I'm new) but Hades is really calling to me. Well I worship the Olympians but he's whispering to me if that makes sence.

I thought I'd give a bit of background information about myself before I ask a few questions:

My name is Dejsha, pronounced like Dejah Vu (without the Vu) though people call me Ari/Ariana.

I'm 21 years old, live in Australia and I'm blind/visually impaired (I have a talking program called Jaws which reads to me what is on my computer screne) and I've been studying religion on/off for about 5 or so years. I'm not Christian, though I believe in God and the reason for this is the Christians in my opinion talk about "hell and sin" all the time and I don't like it how they try to convert me to Christianity.


Last year on December 6 I turned 21 and onDec 8my Mum's Mum my Nan Pam died (I was there) and on Dec 11my Dad's Mum Nan Hazel died (they both died from cancer). I think that's when Hades really started calling to me. I was depressed for a while and I'm still upset of course, but he's like a comforting presence in my mind and life.

I have been doing research on how to worship him and could only find sacrificing animals to him andd banging my hand (palm or fist and how mamny times?) on the ground.

Being blind, I won't be able to light candles to him (it'd be dangerous for me to do the candlle thing though a friend said if you do magic, fire can be represented by an unlight candle).

I also would like to worship Persephone, she's not calling me as strongly as Hades, but she's there. She's like my unconcious and he's my concious if that makes sence.

How can I worship Hades?

I know this sounds crazy, but when I think of him, I get this desire, like sexual desire. I've been with one guy and that's it, so I'm not that experienced but he (Hades) is just a really big desire, he's like a lover to me more than anything else.

I think I'm psychic, not sure if this is important or not. I think I've been more psychic ever since both my Nans died last year...

What are the symbols, colours (black?), stones/elements etc of Hades?

Does anyone know of any good websites or audiobooks on him and Persephone?

I welcom as much info/ sources as possible.

Thanks and if anyone knows where I can post this in my own thread, I'll do that too.

Ari

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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2011, 01:45:28 am »
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Last year on December 6 I turned 21 and onDec 8my Mum's Mum my Nan Pam died (I was there) and on Dec 11my Dad's Mum Nan Hazel died (they both died from cancer). I think that's when Hades really started calling to me. I was depressed for a while and I'm still upset of course, but he's like a comforting presence in my mind and life.

I have been doing research on how to worship him and could only find sacrificing animals to him andd banging my hand (palm or fist and how mamny times?) on the ground.

Being blind, I won't be able to light candles to him (it'd be dangerous for me to do the candlle thing though a friend said if you do magic, fire can be represented by an unlight candle).

I also would like to worship Persephone, she's not calling me as strongly as Hades, but she's there. She's like my unconcious and he's my concious if that makes sence.


What are the symbols, colours (black?), stones/elements etc of Hades?
Ari

 
I am very sorry for your loss.

If it makes you feel any better, I don't light candles either if I can avoid it-I'm pyrophobic! I use stones and crystals for everything. All gems and crystals belong to Hades because they come from under the earth, so any that you feel work best for you (apart fom man made stones) will do for Him. I also tend to associate deep and earth colours with Him. I use purples and reds for Persephone.
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2011, 03:04:27 am »
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I am very sorry for your loss.

If it makes you feel any better, I don't light candles either if I can avoid it-I'm pyrophobic! I use stones and crystals for everything. All gems and crystals belong to Hades because they come from under the earth, so any that you feel work best for you (apart fom man made stones) will do for Him. I also tend to associate deep and earth colours with Him. I use purples and reds for Persephone.


Thanks heaps.

What is pyrophobic? phobic I take it is the fear part. I just think (not sure if its because of both of my Nans dying three days apart from one another--I think that's a sign) and more importantly, I feel connected to him, that Hades is my patron God, though I don't know how I can go about worshiping him.

Do you worship Hades/Persephone and if so, what do you do?

Being blind, I love descriptions, so any would be appreciated.

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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2011, 03:12:02 am »
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Thanks heaps.

What is pyrophobic? phobic I take it is the fear part. I just think (not sure if its because of both of my Nans dying three days apart from one another--I think that's a sign) and more importantly, I feel connected to him, that Hades is my patron God, though I don't know how I can go about worshiping him.

Do you worship Hades/Persephone and if so, what do you do?

Being blind, I love descriptions, so any would be appreciated.

 
Pyrophobic mean that I have a phobia of fire. From little flames to huge fires, I am scared witless (not that I have many wits to start with, but that is besides the point!).

I have had Hades as a Patron for over 20 years now (yes, I'm getting on, I know) and I've also followed Persephone for a good portion of that time. Pretty much everything I do is devoted in some way to my Patron. I put offerings on my altar every day (except when I am away from home, then I have to figure out another way of doing it). One level of my altar is dedicated to Him-the other is to the other Deities that I work with all the time (Persephone, Neith and Cathubodua).
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2011, 12:09:08 pm »
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Pyrophobic mean that I have a phobia of fire. From little flames to huge fires, I am scared witless (not that I have many wits to start with, but that is besides the point!).

I have had Hades as a Patron for over 20 years now (yes, I'm getting on, I know) and I've also followed Persephone for a good portion of that time. Pretty much everything I do is devoted in some way to my Patron. I put offerings on my altar every day (except when I am away from home, then I have to figure out another way of doing it). One level of my altar is dedicated to Him-the other is to the other Deities that I work with all the time (Persephone, Neith and Cathubodua).

 


I think that I am also pyrophobic. I have a huge! fear of the oven. Being blind, I think it is easier for me to get burnt (I burnt myself on my chest and stomach with just a cup of tea before, so yeah, I've always been scared of burns/fire/the oven).

I don't think I've heard of the other dieties except of course Persephone.

I tried finding a Hades/Persephone statue but haven't had any luck.

Do you know of any resources (preferably websites/audiobooks) that would help me or any utube users who specificlly talk about Hades/Persephone?

Do you have a magical name? I know some people do/don't, so I was just curious. I was thinking of Daughter of Hades, something to do with Nightshade, I did think of MoonlightOwl (though one of my friends on utube has that name), Kahlan (kaylin is how it is pronounced--its frm the Sword of Truth book series by Terry Goodkind)--those sort of names. I was thinking of QueenOfCerial (for Demeter, she's another Goddess who is calling to me, though in the name of Thermasia) or Kora/Cora (a name I made up is Cora Onyveth Thermasia for any possible children--sorry I love names)...

I want to start off with the basic things first. I just moved into my own unit by myself, and have to get my altar (it was really basic) unpacked: a cloth (like a face washer), 2 red candles (no candle holder) and a large circle hot chocolate candle in a clear glass jar and of course water--I had a small container of salt (not sure what else to use for earth/air--no feathers around her that I can find)but can't find it...(:

I don't know if I'm going about this the right way or not and I'm sorry for clogging someone else's thread with the questions (sorry about those too) but I know Hades can be impatient.

In my mind, I talk to him/Persephone(she's more for woman things though)and like I said I see him as a lover and he comforts me when I'm upset. I learnt by talking to him and I think it is Hades now that I think about it to instead of creating a bigger argument with someone who started it, I uslually tel Hades what I woud have liked to have said to that person. It has heleped me learn control :).

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2011, 02:10:29 am »
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I think that I am also pyrophobic. I have a huge! fear of the oven. Being blind, I think it is easier for me to get burnt (I burnt myself on my chest and stomach with just a cup of tea before, so yeah, I've always been scared of burns/fire/the oven).

I don't think I've heard of the other dieties except of course Persephone.

I tried finding a Hades/Persephone statue but haven't had any luck.

Do you know of any resources (preferably websites/audiobooks) that would help me or any utube users who specificlly talk about Hades/Persephone?

Do you have a magical name? I know some people do/don't, so I was just curious. I was thinking of Daughter of Hades, something to do with Nightshade, I did think of MoonlightOwl (though one of my friends on utube has that name), Kahlan (kaylin is how it is pronounced--its frm the Sword of Truth book series by Terry Goodkind)--those sort of names. I was thinking of QueenOfCerial (for Demeter, she's another Goddess who is calling to me, though in the name of Thermasia) or Kora/Cora (a name I made up is Cora Onyveth Thermasia for any possible children--sorry I love names)...

I want to start off with the basic things first. I just moved into my own unit by myself, and have to get my altar (it was really basic) unpacked: a cloth (like a face washer), 2 red candles (no candle holder) and a large circle hot chocolate candle in a clear glass jar and of course water--I had a small container of salt (not sure what else to use for earth/air--no feathers around her that I can find)but can't find it...(:

I don't know if I'm going about this the right way or not and I'm sorry for clogging someone else's thread with the questions (sorry about those too) but I know Hades can be impatient.

In my mind, I talk to him/Persephone(she's more for woman things though)and like I said I see him as a lover and he comforts me when I'm upset. I learnt by talking to him and I think it is Hades now that I think about it to instead of creating a bigger argument with someone who started it, I uslually tel Hades what I woud have liked to have said to that person. It has heleped me learn control :).

Ok, I'll start at the beginning and work my way through, if that's ok.

I've had pyrophobia since I was a little girl and nearly fell into a large bonfire. It put me in 'freak mode' for life.

Neith is an Ancient Egyptian warrior and hunting goddess, but also a goddess of weaving and the domestic arts. She was also worshipped as a protector of women and guardian of marriage. Cathubodua is a Gaulish/Celtic goddess whose name means 'Battle Crow'. She can probably start an argument in an empty room! She is wonderful for helping to deal with anger because She is all about using rage without letting it control you.

I have never found any statuary specifically for Hades or Persephone so I use those that I have found that I think are appropriate as representations and dedicated the statues to them. It seems to work for me. I did most of my research before the internet was even invented, so I'm not much use in the research department online. RandallS is a very good person to send a message to on here though, as is Melamorphos.

My 'magical name' is the name I use on here. I didn't choose it though. Hades gave it to me years ago, but I've only just started using it in front of others. It was always a private thing before.

My altar consists of exactly 4 things. Over 100 crystals (of various types, shapes and sizes), statues, 5 daggers (again, of various sizes and styles) and 1 chalice. That's it. It works perfectly.

You can ask any questions that you like. If you are worried about taking over a thread though, you can always just send a private message to whomever you want to talk to and ask that way. :)
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2011, 05:35:04 am »
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Ok, I'll start at the beginning and work my way through, if that's ok.

I've had pyrophobia since I was a little girl and nearly fell into a large bonfire. It put me in 'freak mode' for life.

Neith is an Ancient Egyptian warrior and hunting goddess, but also a goddess of weaving and the domestic arts. She was also worshipped as a protector of women and guardian of marriage. Cathubodua is a Gaulish/Celtic goddess whose name means 'Battle Crow'. She can probably start an argument in an empty room! She is wonderful for helping to deal with anger because She is all about using rage without letting it control you.

I have never found any statuary specifically for Hades or Persephone so I use those that I have found that I think are appropriate as representations and dedicated the statues to them. It seems to work for me. I did most of my research before the internet was even invented, so I'm not much use in the research department online. RandallS is a very good person to send a message to on here though, as is Melamorphos.

My 'magical name' is the name I use on here. I didn't choose it though. Hades gave it to me years ago, but I've only just started using it in front of others. It was always a private thing before.

My altar consists of exactly 4 things. Over 100 crystals (of various types, shapes and sizes), statues, 5 daggers (again, of various sizes and styles) and 1 chalice. That's it. It works perfectly.

You can ask any questions that you like. If you are worried about taking over a thread though, you can always just send a private message to whomever you want to talk to and ask that way. :)

 


Ah, thanks. I like your name, it sounds like something Hades would suggest. Kahlan(kaylin is how it is pronounced) keeps popping up in my mind as does MoonlightOwl(though as I've said someone whom I know-not personally- has the name, though she did say I could use it (though she's got the name on utube so not sure what I'd do regarding that my utube names bella10riddle btw)).

What animals represent Hades? maybe mMoonlight Lynx? hmm...
How do you pray to him? do you bang your hand on the ground (I read that youthe Greeks did that when preying).

Do the two users on here worship hhim too (the ones you mentioned?).

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