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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2016, 03:05:03 pm »
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I'm interested in knowing why you worship the specific deities you do. 1 Who do you work with? 2 What started your relationship with them? 3 Why do you continue investing time into them? 4 Are you deeply committed to them, or is your relationship with them temporary? 5 Which relationships do you consider most important, and why? 6 Or are they equally important to you?

Ignore/modify the questions as you need to. :) They're only supposed to serve as prompts.


1:I am a devout Hellenic pagan. I have worked with many, if not all, of the Theoi at one point or another depending on what I needed help with at the time.
2: I was trying to find my path, learning all I could of different faiths, and opening myself to any deity that wished to help.  eventually one time when I was meditating, Athena came to me, and nudged me toward the path I'm on now.  
3: After the initial experience with Athena, I began focusing my efforts and learning toward developing a purely Hellenistic practice.  I began following the Calendar, and making offerings, not only to Athena, whom I had thanked for helping me, but to each deity on their celebrated days.  It felt right so I moved deeper, and began to reach out to specific deitys for help with things as I needed it, and eventually came to be where I am today.
4: I am deeply committed to them.  5: my deepest connections are with Athena, Hermes, and Artemis, but I dont view the others as less important.  I just do not have as much experience working with them as I do Athena, Hermes, and Artemis.  6: I would say they are equally important, but obviously people will develop deeper bonds with some deitys than others, depending on A: their own needs, and B: which Gods and Goddesses take an interest in them.

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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2016, 01:46:53 pm »
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I'm interested in knowing why you worship the specific deities you do. Who do you work with? What started your relationship with them? Why do you continue investing time into them? Are you deeply committed to them, or is your relationship with them temporary? Which relationships do you consider most important, and why? Or are they equally important to you?

Ignore/modify the questions as you need to. :) They're only supposed to serve as prompts.

 
I work with Hestia, Hecate, Artemis, Ceres, Kuan Yin, Tara, Dionysus, Mara, The Madonna, Mary Magdalene, and Death.  They all came to me, showed an interest in wanting to work together.  I did the research, made the decision, erected the shrines, and met with Them.  I am deeply devoted to Them, because of all that They do to help me heal and become a better person.  

Hestia and Hecate are most important to me, because I am claimed by both and Hestia is my Matron.  But the Others hold equal importance to each other.  Each have Their own spaces and have special days for offerings.
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2016, 11:11:30 am »
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I'm interested in knowing why you worship the specific deities you do. Who do you work with? What started your relationship with them? Why do you continue investing time into them? Are you deeply committed to them, or is your relationship with them temporary? Which relationships do you consider most important, and why? Or are they equally important to you?

Ignore/modify the questions as you need to. :) They're only supposed to serve as prompts.


For me is very interesting view of the ancient mysteries and eastern philosopies. According to them a man will come in the next life (in exceptional cases already in this life) among creatures which invokes.

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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2016, 12:37:21 pm »
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Who do you work with?


Thórr primarily. He is my fulltrui, "fully trusted one". It's not the same as patron, it's more like the Hindu concept of ishta-devata, personal or cherished deity, a deity one feels particularly close to.

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What started your relationship with them?


I always knew of Thórr and the Norse gods but I never paid much attention to them. I practiced Hinduism and dabbled in Buddhism and Taoism. Something prompted me to order a resin statue of Thórr. When it came it was one of those "OK, so now where do I put it?" and kept moving it around, not feeling right wherever I put it. It was almost as if he was nudging me and trying to get my attention. About that time I was becoming disillusioned with Hinduism. I dismantled my Hindu shrine, and created a shrine to Thórr and the other Norse deities (Æsir and Vanir).

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Why do you continue investing time into them? Are you deeply committed to them, or is your relationship with them temporary?


As far as I am concerned, it is a full-on commitment to Thórr and the Æsir and Vanir. I feel most connected to them, more than to Hindu, Taoist or Buddhist deities, whom I still revere and respect, though I don't worship them per se. I almost never go anywhere without wearing my Mjöllnir, Thórr's hammer, pendant.

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Well, as my fulltrui, Thórr comes first but I feel particularly close to Freyr, Freyja, and Njördr; a little less close to Týr, Heimdallr, Frigga though I offer all the  Æsir and Vanir reverence. I hail Óðinn but I try not to get his attention. Óðinn can be very demanding, and one does not enter into a relationship with him lightly.

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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2016, 03:08:58 pm »
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I'm interested in knowing why you worship the specific deities you do. Who do you work with? What started your relationship with them? Why do you continue investing time into them? Are you deeply committed to them, or is your relationship with them temporary? Which relationships do you consider most important, and why? Or are they equally important to you?

 
I primarily worship the Egyptian deities, though recently, the Nordic deities are more and more on my mind.

My relationship with the Netjer began many years ago, when I was a young girl in like, first grade school i think. We briefly touched upon Ancient Egypt and the Gods in the brief kind of way those classes do, just to introduce you to the material for later grades. I was hooked. I read all I could about them in the library, on the internet, everywhere. By the time I was in 6th grade, I knew so much that during our Egyptian Religion discussion in ancient studies, the teacher let me teach about the Gods!

I'm a rather newcomer to Kemetism. I only found out that the worship of these Old Gods was still a thing about 7 years ago, and I've practiced since and never looked back. I practiced solitarily for a while but I felt like I needed to know more structure and what have you, so I've been a member of the Kemetic Orthodoxy House of Netjer for about two years. I'm waiting to get my RPD soon!

As for the Nordic Gods... it's recent. Literally within the last six months recent. I decided I wanted to study Wicca and learn more about it, and decided ultimately that it was a bit too 'fluffy' for me (no offense to anyone!), but in studying Wicca I was introduced to the Northern Gods. I have Germanic ancestry myself, and immediately I felt a deep connection from within that I just couldn't shake. I did not want to mix Pantheons, but ultimately, I just cannot ignore my draw to the Northern Ways. I will of course keep the devotion of each separate, but I prayed and asked my Gods, and they all seem to be alright with it. Reading through the Eddas now. I'm well on my way to becoming a knowledgable Asatruar. :)

I continue to worship the Gods that I do because they are simply my Gods. Unlike when I was a Christian, something I never truly believed in, I feel like the Gods are there for me, listen to me, and help me and my beloved ones in my path in life.

For me, Kemetism will be a permanent way of life for me, and though I've not delved very deeply into it yet, I feel like Asatru will be as well. I take my religion seriously and deeply once I finally found the ones that were 'for me'. I won't take back my service to these Gods.

Most of my relationships with the Gods are fairly equal, but I put emphasis on my devotion to Anpu/Anubis. He is the God that enraptured me the most as a child, the one I studied for hours on end, drew pictures of, had dreams of. Searching for Him is what led me to Kemetism in the first place, so I am forever grateful. He will always be my Guide and protector. I'm also finding myself more and more drawn to Sekhmet as well, and I'm finding my ways to honor Her and speak with Her now. For the Norse Gods, as I said, I'm very very new, but I do feel a very strong kinship to Thor. I already feel as if He accepts me and wants to protect me, and I blessed my Mjolnir pendant in his name. I wear it every day.
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2016, 06:10:29 am »
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Reading through the Eddas now. I'm well on my way to becoming a knowledgable Asatruar. :)


Just remember to take Snorri's Edda with a grain of salt. Snorri Sturluson was an upper class Christian Icelander of the 13th century, who lived 200 years after the shift of religion.

The ancestors of most (but not all) Icelanders were from the upper crust of Norwegian society. Any preserved knowledge about the old Norse religion must have reflected old Norse religion as it was once practiced by upper-class Norwegians, and must be less representative of the old Norse religion of Norwegian farmers, Norwegian thralls, Danes in general and Swedes in general. Snorri was focussed on the deities of public cult and kingship. The lesser deities of domestic cultus, such as the farm wight (tomte), are not mentioned. Historians of religion today stresses the probability of regional differences within old Norse religion.

Theophoric names of places in mainland Scandinavia show that the Sun must have been important, but she is hardly mentioned by Snorri. The mother of Frey and Freya is not mentioned by name. The lineage of Heimdall, Hoenir and Lo∂urr is not explained.

Time had went by. I do not doubt Snorri's honest interest in maintaining a cultural legacy and the ability to interpret old, traditional poems (just as the Christian Irish and Welsh treated their own mythologies and poetry), but, at the time he wrote his Edda, the old religion had not been practiced for more than 200 years. During that interval of time, there was an obvious risk to forget and misinterpret, although unintentionally.

Saxo Grammaticus (an older contemporary of Snorri) preserved an East-Scandinavian version of the myth about Balder and Hö∂r. In this version, Hö∂r, who is not blind, is the true love of Nanna, and the evil Balder try to wed her against her will. Loki is no part of the plot, and Balder is slain with a sword (named Mistletoe) borrowed from Mimir (Mimingus in Saxo's latinized version of the Norse name).

Frey and Ullr, who seem to be two names of the same deity in Grimnismal 5,* are treated as two separate gods by Snorri.

Snorri's Edda is not exhaustive. The myths contained in Fjölsvinnsmál are not given any interpretation at all. Nor are the myths in Sólarljó∂ (the latter with an odd mix of late, Christian elements and strangely archaic Norse elements), but that poem didn't necessarily exist at the time of Snorri. Sólarljó∂ is fascinating in such details as mentioning a myth about Njord's nine daughters, the hart's horn carried by Vigdvalin, the dragons of Van, the hart of the Sun, Nidi's seven sons, and the seven worlds of victory.

That said, Snorri's Edda is of course one of the most important written source materials we have.

* Or, rather, one title ('Frey' means 'Lord') and one personal name (Ullr)

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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2016, 11:00:03 am »
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Saxo Grammaticus (an older contemporary of Snorri) preserved an East-Scandinavian version of the myth about Balder and Hö∂r. In this version, Hö∂r, who is not blind, is the true love of Nanna, and the evil Balder try to wed her against her will. Loki is no part of the plot, and Balder is slain with a sword (named Mistletoe) borrowed from Mimir (Mimingus in Saxo's latinized version of the Norse name).



I thought this was the other way around? Baldr and Nanna met and fell in love first and Hodr came in as a rival, ultimately winning Nanna's hand because Baldr was deceived and manipulated.
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2016, 02:59:16 pm »
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I thought this was the other way around? Baldr and Nanna met and fell in love first and Hodr came in as a rival, ultimately winning Nanna's hand because Baldr was deceived and manipulated.


I checked Saxo: No, Nanna admire Hodr, but Balder spies on her when she bathes in a lake, and invade her fathers country, and threaten him in order to marry Nanna. Balder is unpleasant in Saxo, and Hodr is a noble hero.

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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2016, 06:16:02 pm »
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I checked Saxo: No, Nanna admire Hodr, but Balder spies on her when she bathes in a lake, and invade her fathers country, and threaten him in order to marry Nanna. Balder is unpleasant in Saxo, and Hodr is a noble hero.

 
Been awhile since I've read that and I must have confused some things. Glad to have it cleared it up!
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2016, 08:22:21 pm »
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Just remember to take Snorri's Edda with a grain of salt. Snorri Sturluson was an upper class Christian Icelander of the 13th century, who lived 200 years after the shift of religion.

 
Just wanted to thank you for your detailed info! :) I'll definitely be sure to keep that in mind as I continue.
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2016, 09:22:36 pm »
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I'm interested in knowing why you worship the specific deities you do. Who do you work with? What started your relationship with them? Why do you continue investing time into them? Are you deeply committed to them, or is your relationship with them temporary? Which relationships do you consider most important, and why? Or are they equally important to you?

Ignore/modify the questions as you need to. :) They're only supposed to serve as prompts.

 
Well, my Gods are Macha, Epona, Morrigna, and Mannanan. As you can see, all are Irish except Epona, She is Gaulish.
Epona has been with me as long as I can remember. I feel She kept me sane through a horrible childhood. I honor Her for that.

Macha came the night before I dedicated myself to the Warrior aspects of the Goddess. At the time I was strongly Wiccan. She told me that I would be Her Priest. When I asked why me, She said that I would be a spiritual and emotional warrior due to my expieriences and my continuing seeking to heal.

Fifteen years later I accepted Her ordination as Priest. Then I went back to Wicca at Her direction and finally became not only a third degree, but the HPS of my training coven.Finally

Mannanan chose me I think because of my fear and inability to trust men. it was a slow process for both of us, but He was patient and eventually I was able to look to Him.

Morrigna, the Seven Ladies of Sovereignty and Battle. With Them I am not only Priest, High Priestess, but also an Incarnation of one or all of Them.

My relationships with my Gods is close and very personal. A lot of my relationships are UPG, but I have found that a lot of what They want from and give me is verified by research. An example is the name Priest rather than Priestess of Macha. A friend who speaks Irish and an earlier form of Irish told me that there is no word for Priestess I n old texts and the only modern term is ban saigert which means only female Priest.

Macha calls me Saigert and so I correct people who think it should be Priestess. Only in my capacity as HPS of an Eclectic Wiccan HPS will I accept Priestess.

None of my relationships is either temporary or casual. I've been chosen (in my UPG) by each of Them for specific tasks and work. In return I have a better understanding not only if myself in healing, but also a greater capacity to empathize with others in spiritual and emotional pain. I am able to help some, and guide others to the professional help they need. I don't always succeed, but when I do, it's a wonderful feeling and I know They are pleased.

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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #56 on: June 13, 2016, 12:09:31 am »
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I'm interested in knowing why you worship the specific deities you do.

 

Meditation on the name of some deity protects me and helps me.

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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2016, 09:27:50 pm »
I only worship the Moon Goddess. Hecate if I must give her a name.

For two reasons. The first is I was born with a crescent moon birthmark that is just visible past the fringe if I move my hair a certain way. The second is my fylgja, such is different than totem animal, is a feline. The puma [cougar / mountain lion] manifested itself in a dream when I turned 17 that burnt so into the brain / the soul that I can remember it as if it happened yesterday & not nearly thirteen years ago.

Most think Moon Goddess = dogs because well "they bay at the moon". In the old lore the Moon Goddess's chief animal was cats, for they guarded the underworld / the spirit world for her [Hecate, Artemis, & Diana all have association with felines].


I honour other gods, other spirits, but such is not done akin to "worship" as how westerners view worship.
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2016, 09:41:30 pm »
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I'm interested in knowing why you worship the specific deities you do. Who do you work with? What started your relationship with them? Why do you continue investing time into them? Are you deeply committed to them, or is your relationship with them temporary? Which relationships do you consider most important, and why? Or are they equally important to you?

 
Forums rules - 2 minutes to edit. Guess I should have read the OP post. Serves me for getting on the forums after a 12hr shift.

As said above work with the Moon Goddess in the concept of western worship.

Relationship - birthmark & fylgja. Actually when younger, before starting to really mature, cats in general. I've always had an affinity for cats and the moon. I have light sensitive eyes & very good night vision and so one could say I prefer nightfall to day.

Why do you continue investing time into them? Ah that's a deep question actually. One day I may answer it fully.

Are you deeply committed to them, or is your relationship with them temporary? I am only referring to the Moon Goddess here. Not the other spirits / deities mentioned who don't fall under worship as westerners view worship. ... For her alone one could say from life to death commitment.

Which relationships do you consider most important, and why? Or are they equally important to you? Equal. Sounds odd doesn't it? But those other spirits / deities not worshipped quite like a westerner they are still honoured, respected, etc.

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