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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2015, 05:42:26 pm »
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I know I can find them pretty easily among my own, heh.


 
Yeah, exactly! You nailed it.

Do you ever find you can guess who people worship or work with after you've known them a little while?

 
I've only ever encountered a pagan irl occasionally, so I've never had that experience. I have had moments of extreme unsurprise, tho. F'ex, one of my friends was a Greek pagan for a time- a very bookish, nerdy* person who loved writing and thoughtful argumentation. Their favorite deity was Athene.

WBU? Have you ever been able to guess a person's deity(s) before?

*Being a total nerd myself, I say this with only love.

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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2015, 11:41:42 pm »
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Not sure if this is out of place or not, but when monotheists ask me the appeal of multiple gods, this is what I tell them. Instead one perfect being all rolled into one; relatable, flawed human-esque deities that we can form highly variable human relationships with.

 
That makes so much sense!

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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2015, 11:44:48 pm »
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WBU? Have you ever been able to guess a person's deity(s) before?

 
Only Lokeans. I don't know why, but every time I've met one IRL it's like something just seems so obvious about it. Which is sort of weird when you consider how tricky the god in question is supposed to be.

(Almost all of them were very nice people, for the record.)

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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2015, 03:57:17 am »
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Only Lokeans. I don't know why, but every time I've met one IRL it's like something just seems so obvious about it. Which is sort of weird when you consider how tricky the god in question is supposed to be.

(Almost all of them were very nice people, for the record.)

 
When Loki & I started working heavily together, the-very-serious-me got very joke & prank loving. I also got more up-in-people's business, more concerned with the truth coming out into the open, and more family oriented. And as a side-effect I eventually became more flirtacious.

Basically, more like him. I got Loki-fied!

I haven't met an entirely bad Lokean online or in real life. But I did know a Lokean who intentionally left the stove on in their work place after hours to set it on fire because the manager was doing messed-up shit to them but they couldn't quit their job.

Like I said. Lokified.
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2015, 01:58:21 pm »
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 But I did know a Lokean who intentionally left the stove on in their work place after hours to set it on fire because the manager was doing messed-up shit to them but they couldn't quit their job.

Like I said. Lokified.

 
I once heard someone say that irl,  Loki is probably a lot more like Danny De Vito from Always Sunny than Tom Hiddleston(?) in Marvel.

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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2015, 02:08:55 pm »
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I'm interested in knowing why you worship the specific deities you do. Who do you work with? What started your relationship with them? Why do you continue investing time into them? Are you deeply committed to them, or is your relationship with them temporary? Which relationships do you consider most important, and why? Or are they equally important to you?

Ignore/modify the questions as you need to. :) They're only supposed to serve as prompts.

 
Because I get along better with God than pretty much anyone else ;)
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« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2015, 06:49:05 pm »
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Because I get along better with God than pretty much anyone else ;)

 
So basically you've got a soul only the Father could love.
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2015, 08:18:28 pm »
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I once heard someone say that irl,  Loki is probably a lot more like Danny De Vito from Always Sunny than Tom Hiddleston(?) in Marvel.


 
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2015, 08:43:36 pm »
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Oh dear gawd that's perfect.
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2015, 11:18:11 pm »
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I'm interested in knowing why you worship the specific deities you do. Who do you work with?


A pantheon that's my own, though rooted in same "stuff" as the ancient ones.

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What started your relationship with them?


Accident. For a work of fiction, I was trying to imagine what the religion of humanity in the distant future might look like; I ended up inadvertently mapping my on subconscious beliefs. Once I realized the archetypes were trying to find new expression, I did the best I could to give them truthful voice and form.

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Why do you continue investing time into them?


It doesn't work like that for me. My gods and their myths are the intermediaries through which I better understand the universe and our/my place in it. It can all remain in the background for long stretches, without me investing any time or action in them, and yet it's still there shaping my perceptions.

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Are you deeply committed to them, or is your relationship with them temporary?


I'm not sure this question applies. They're part of me in a very low-key way; I don't think of them literally, as beings with whom one has an almost "significant other"-style relationship. These are the metaphors I live by, that help me make sense of the world.

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Which relationships do you consider most important, and why? Or are they equally important to you?


See the caveat above. That said, they all get their due...but because of the kind of person I am--thrice an "other" from the mainstream, someone who prizes intellect and rational thought above nearly all else--I am particularly fond of Night, the Lord of Things Unseen. I'm his creature.
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2015, 12:12:57 am »
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So basically you've got a soul only the Father could love.

 
Pretty much :p
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
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I'm interested in knowing why you worship the specific deities you do. Who do you work with? What started your relationship with them? Why do you continue investing time into them? Are you deeply committed to them, or is your relationship with them temporary? Which relationships do you consider most important, and why? Or are they equally important to you?

Ignore/modify the questions as you need to. :) They're only supposed to serve as prompts.

 
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2015, 08:56:39 pm »
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I once heard someone say that irl,  Loki is probably a lot more like Danny De Vito from Always Sunny than Tom Hiddleston(?) in Marvel.


So, everyone's experience with a deity is different. A Loki like Danny De Vito is valid. Some people experience him as being like that.

I did not. In fact, if he had acted like that to me, I would have been the one showing him the door; not the other way around.


The Loki I married was more like...hmm. He was a somewhat Fae-like, funny guy that was a lady-charmer and was rather protective of those he cared about.

Somewhat extroverted, the kind of guy who could hang in a bar regularly and likes rocking out. I'm sure there's a Western TV character that's very much like him. Unfortunately, I don't watch live-action TV, generally.  I could see someone hiring to voice him. It wouldn't be a perfect voice match, but it'd do.



Also, YouTube ate all of the good videos I could have used for my more accurate examples. I am greatly saddened by this.


So I would say a less whimsical, more wolf-like Puck from Gargoyles.

Maybe a bit or (victim blaming trigger warning for link) every now and then.
Coming from someone who's never seen the shows, just watching some clips.

Also, he has the sexual charisma stat of Ikuto from Shugo Chara. Jesus Christ, I swear Loki was a fertility God before the Germanic pantheon took him in.



As far as Marvel!Loki goes...well. I don't like people ragging on him.

I am 99.7% convinced that Norse!Loki was working with Tom Hiddleston and perhaps the scriptwriters and the entire movie in general.

He partook in making Marvel Cinematic Universe's Loki. Who am I to criticize his work and look down upon it as a comparison to him?

Loki himself uses Marvel!Loki to his benefit. And I know he was watching--if not outright partially vessling--
There's too much feeling of power--deity presence, for anything else.



Norse!Loki and Marvel!Loki do bear some similarities, especially when listing qualities verbally. Prankster, not-quite outcast, vengeful, sucky life. On the inside, at their hearts, there's some difference. They're different individuals. But they also act differently, usually.

Norse!Loki is more like Kamigami no Asobi's Loki than like Marvel!Loki.

Loki's more of a cool guy, whereas Marvel Loki is too...Malfoyish. And quiet.
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Re: Why do you worship the gods/spirits/forces you do?
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2015, 09:40:22 pm »
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So, everyone's experience with a deity is different. A Loki like Danny De Vito is valid. Some people experience him as being like that.

I did not. In fact, if he had acted like that to me, I would have been the one showing him the door; not the other way around.


The Loki I married was more like...hmm. He was a somewhat Fae-like, funny guy that was a lady-charmer and was rather protective of those he cared about.

Somewhat extroverted, the kind of guy who could hang in a bar regularly and likes rocking out. I'm sure there's a Western TV character that's very much like him. Unfortunately, I don't watch live-action TV, generally.  I could see someone hiring to voice him. It wouldn't be a perfect voice match, but it'd do.



Also, YouTube ate all of the good videos I could have used for my more accurate examples. I am greatly saddened by this.


So I would say a less whimsical, more wolf-like Puck from Gargoyles.

Maybe a bit or (victim blaming trigger warning for link) every now and then.
Coming from someone who's never seen the shows, just watching some clips.

Also, he has the sexual charisma stat of Ikuto from Shugo Chara. Jesus Christ, I swear Loki was a fertility God before the Germanic pantheon took him in.



As far as Marvel!Loki goes...well. I don't like people ragging on him.

I am 99.7% convinced that Norse!Loki was working with Tom Hiddleston and perhaps the scriptwriters and the entire movie in general.

He partook in making Marvel Cinematic Universe's Loki. Who am I to criticize his work and look down upon it as a comparison to him?

Loki himself uses Marvel!Loki to his benefit. And I know he was watching--if not outright partially vessling--
There's too much feeling of power--deity presence, for anything else.



Norse!Loki and Marvel!Loki do bear some similarities, especially when listing qualities verbally. Prankster, not-quite outcast, vengeful, sucky life. On the inside, at their hearts, there's some difference. They're different individuals. But they also act differently, usually.

Norse!Loki is more like Kamigami no Asobi's Loki than like Marvel!Loki.

Loki's more of a cool guy, whereas Marvel Loki is too...Malfoyish. And quiet.


I don't understand half of your references.

I will also say that I agree about the connection between Marvel's Loki and the "original" Loki. Once I'd seen the MCU films, Loki took great pleasure in using them to troll me.
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« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2015, 10:21:42 pm »
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I don't understand half of your references.

Fair enough. I don't have the clips to give you examples. I'm sorry. They used to be there, but YouTube copyrighted them. And I couldn't find clips anywhere else.

Puck & Kamigami!Loki are really the ones I want to emphasize. (Although that combo itself is too glittery for the whole personality I'm trying to convey...)And they are not on YouTube.


Or were you asking about the ones I did link? What didn't you understand?


Tip: If you don't understand my references, read the description of his personality I gave.

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