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Sun/Solar Deities
« on: August 08, 2012, 03:23:57 pm »
I myself worships a solar deity in the Celtic God Belenus, what are some others from different cultures, and how do you honor them.
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Re: Sun/Solar Deities
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2012, 03:38:59 pm »
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I myself worships a solar deity in the Celtic God Belenus, what are some others from different cultures, and how do you honor them.


I could tell you about Sequana, but she's not from another culture.. ;)
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Re: Sun/Solar Deities
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2012, 04:00:26 pm »
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I myself worships a solar deity in the Celtic God Belenus, what are some others from different cultures, and how do you honor them.

 
I worship Apollo, who, according to different interpretations, may or may not be the God of the Sun. The solar connections are there in any case, since He is the God of Light, and the Sun is the most important light source for us on Earth, but they are only part of His attributes, and not the single focus of my practice.

Honoring the solar aspects for me right now means just celebrating the solstices (not present in Ancient Greek religion, as far as I know) and wearing amber and garnet jewelry. Some time ago, before committing to Hellenic Religion, I've tried adapting the sun-worshiping rituals from different traditions for my practice, from Sun Salutations in yoga to Thelemic Liber Resh, but now there's no need for it anymore.

Also, I still take time researching the solar cults from all over the world, both ancient and modern ones like the Divine Masculinity aspect of Wicca, looking for the similarities with my God in them.

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Re: Sun/Solar Deities
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2012, 04:52:57 pm »
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I myself worships a solar deity in the Celtic God Belenus, what are some others from different cultures, and how do you honor them.

 
There's Kinich Ahau of the old Maya religion, and there's Huitzilopochtli of the Aztecs. I honor the former, but take some inspiration from the latter who I find to be a really interesting character. Both, however, are associated with the color red.

It's pretty widely accepted now that Kinich Ahau is a celestial aspect of Itzamna, First Father and sky god. He is both benevolent and dangerous, likely associated with birds of prey. Some of my scholarly UPG has him as a personification of the yearly calendar itself (kin means both "sun" and "day" in Yukatek) because of Itzamna's central role in the creation of the divinatory calendar and timekeeping, as well as linking him to war like Huitzilopochtli due to the bird thing-- eagles and falcons were a common focus of warrior cults throughout Mesoamerica. However, he was also associated with red macaws, due to their coloring: red and yellow for the fire and light of his face, and blue for the sky he travels through.

At night, he transforms into the Night Sun, or Jaguar God of the Underworld, sometimes depicted as being carried on the back of a dwarf through the underworld, sometimes being depicted as an athropomorphic jaguar (jaguars were the other popular totem of the warrior classes, I might add) making his own way. (These I believe are interpretations and possibly not based on historical evidence, though from what I understand of the lore, they make a lot of sense.)

I honor him by celebrating the solstices and equinoxes and leaving offerings on those days.

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Re: Sun/Solar Deities
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2012, 05:40:02 pm »
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I could tell you about Sequana, but she's not from another culture.. ;)
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Re: Sun/Solar Deities
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2012, 11:54:37 pm »
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I could tell you about Sequana, but she's not from another culture.. ;)

 
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You should tell anyway!


NibbleKat sent me a lot of very, very useful sources when I asked. With her permission, I could re-post those PM's here? :ange:
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2012, 12:08:50 am »
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I myself worships a solar deity in the Celtic God Belenus, what are some others from different cultures, and how do you honor them.

Brighid is a considered a solar goddess, as well as having connections to the hearth, wells/springs/lakes, poetry and learning, healing, and smithcraft.  And probably social justice, too.

She's a busy Lady.  ;)
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Re: Sun/Solar Deities
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2012, 01:16:20 am »
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I myself worships a solar deity in the Celtic God Belenus, what are some others from different cultures, and how do you honor them.


Aset is a solar goddess as an Eye of Ra, is associated with the solar cycle and the one who helps the sun to rise.  Nebet Het has these same attributes.  

Wepwawet is a solar god.  Sekhmet-Mut is a solar goddess as an Eye of Ra and is associated with sunlight.  

I honor them by giving offerings and doing ritual.  

As Aster Breo has said, Brighid is associated with the sun.  I honor Her by giving Her offerings and observing Her Cill Shifts.
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Re: Sun/Solar Deities
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2012, 11:49:56 am »
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NibbleKat sent me a lot of very, very useful sources when I asked. With her permission, I could re-post those PM's here? :ange:

 
YES. That saves me a lot of typing.  What did you come up with in regards to the info?

I was wondering about you-- I heard about the flooding in the Phillipines. You okay?
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Re: Sun/Solar Deities
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2012, 11:50:21 am »
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Brighid is a considered a solar goddess, as well as having connections to the hearth, wells/springs/lakes, poetry and learning, healing, and smithcraft.  And probably social justice, too.

She's a busy Lady.  ;)

 
If she were living in the Jane Austen world, she'd be called "accomplished."
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Re: Sun/Solar Deities
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2012, 11:53:53 am »
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You should tell anyway!

 
I'll add to what triple_entendre says with a little UPG.

Sequana, the goddess of the source of the Seine in France, was one of those multi-faceted goddesses who was both a solar deity and a water deity.  

My UPG impressions of her is that she is very mothering.  Gentle, guiding, protective.  I associate her with the color rose and I've found that she likes pears on the altar.  She is very quiet in comparison to the other deities I follow. I find that she seems to sit back and listen and do, rather than speak.  

But she is very protective, and as a solar goddess (as will be mentioned in the things that Triple will repeat for me) she drives out the darkness.  Darkness of mind, of malevolent spirits, of fear.  I think she's wonderful.
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Re: Sun/Solar Deities
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2012, 12:39:27 pm »
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YES. That saves me a lot of typing.  What did you come up with in regards to the info? I was wondering about you-- I heard about the flooding in the Phillipines. You okay?
Ah... I'm beginning to be more certain that my vision may not have been of Her. Still! Always a lover of learning mythology/history, here. :) Or who knows, She might stop by again and I'll be better prepared. About the flooding, thanks for asking, me and mine are blessedly comfortable and safe, well-stocked while waiting for the waters to drain out the first floor so that we can use the front door again without scuba gear. (Only a slight exaggeration, that.)





So. About Sequana, I messaged NibbleKat with an encounter I had about five years back, during an episode of sleep paralysis. Solar deity, female-shaped, even gave me a name that sounded like Sequana, but I completely missed out on any and all mythology about Sequana so I ended up researching Sekhmet. Snipped some other details since... just in case anything else matches up, I'd like to be as pleasantly surprised as I was with matching the syllables. Thanks so much to NK for taking the time!

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OK, here goes a bit.

I don’t know if you saw these links online:
http://penhook.org/sequana2.htm
http://journeyingtothegoddess.wordpr...ddess-sequana/

The first has little info, but it has a closer picture of Sequana’s statue’s face, which you don’t see very often.

The second is so-so, it gets the gist of her, but it seems there’s a bit of UPG in it. However, first link links to here:

http://theses.univ-lyon2.fr/documents/getpart.php?id=lyon2.2009.beck_n&part=159221
Which shows how her sanctuary was set up.

A good book to read or at least search through is Miranda Green’s “Gods of the Celts.”

There are several aspects to Sequana.  She’s not just a river/healing goddess.  None of the Celtic gods seem to be JUST anything…. They’re complex.

Her name probably means “The fast –flowing one”.

Her attributes are:
River goddess, which means that she both heals and is connected with the Otherworld.  Healing will always be connected with death… it’s just inevitable. Whether it’s someone being treated who dies, or or being pulled back from death’s door, etc.  

Source of the Seine: meaning that she begins the Seine river, springing out of the earth, providing the people along the river with the lifeblood of the earth (water). This ties in with:

Mother goddess: She’s a mother goddess, but not in the Matres sense; she provides for her people, she protects them, she heals them when she can.

Solar deity:  Her duck boat is a water-fowl. Water fowl were solar images found on lots of things in the Celtic world.  Solar emblems were protective, first and foremost (UPG line? The sun drives away the shadows. Burns out the night fears).  The duck also binds both water (the underworld) and the sky together.  So, it’s of this world and the next one. The duck boat she’s on could connotate travel, but that’s not really been proven.  Other ducks with beads/berries/offering cakes in their mouths (and crows, too) have been found in Britain. If I can find the thesis I had at one point a long time ago regarding this, I will send it to you.  Solar bits can mean fertility, too.

Now, she had ex votos dropped into her shrine; some of these were of eyes.  Another UPG I’ve tied in with her being the light that drives away the dark is the curing of blindness (or at least, the hope that she could), brings back light into a person’s life.

You might have read that other ex votos included little statuettes of dogs; dogs are also connected with healing in the Celtic world, and death; they crossed between the worlds or at least could see into the Otherworld, if I remember correctly.  They’re also symbols of the feminine; women used to have little lap dogs to keep their laps warm in order to ease menstrual pains. J

That healing sanctuary in the link I showed you does have a place for pilgrims to come and sleep, possibly to receive healing dreams from her.  So, I also associate her with sleep, dreams.

As for UPG; she is a wonderful goddess.  She’s very patient, very loving.  I associate her with rosy colors and flowers.  She likes pears.

The Romans did, in fact, worship Sequana, since they made the shrine for her over the preexisting Celtic site. If you think it COULD be a deer-symbol, that could take on completely different connotations. If so, remind me, and I’ll tell you about my vision regarding Sirona and a deer in Feb of 2011… they’re often regarded as Otherworld creatures, and animals of biiig transitions.


(I’ll throw this in just to add a bit of confusion to your life:   I don’t think it’s Sequana, but who knows?   http://finds.org.uk/news/stories/article/id/44/?newsID=44

And also:  http://www.celtnet.org.uk/gods_s/souconna.html   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souconna  The latter article mentions that she was the goddess of the Sequanes tribe. I do not know if this is the same as the Sequani, which was the tribe Sequana was associated with. If you do a bing search with both Sequani and Sequanes in it, they often appear right next to each other)

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OH.
Pee Esssss.

http://theses.univ-lyon2.fr/documents/getpart.php?id=lyon2.2009.beck_n&part=159220

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Forgot this one, too.

http://www.linternaute.com/musee/diaporama/1/7172/musee-archeologique-de-dijon/5/33246/deesse-fluviale/  

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I just found this on a French website:
I believe that the Sequani take their name from two rivers which rise in their territory, and Seine and Saone well have a common linguistic origin: * SAK-ANA; vowel mutations so frequent were the remainder: SEKANA, one for SEQUINA, SAKONA for the other. Other Celtic tribes have adopted the name of (the) main stream (-pal) spraying their territory (pagus). I quote from the Scabiens Pagus Scabiosus, sources of the Scheldt and the Scarp (SKAL/R- same root), the Hainault Country of Hainaut, on the banks of Hate (B), the Lommaciens those of the Lomme (B), those of the Sambriens Sambre (B), etc.. But often, only the name of their country (pagus) reached us, one of these small ethnic groups that have been subsumed by more powerful neighbors. The name of the Sequani, the Sequania capita, we reached exceptionally. Remember that the names of rivers are older than the Celts, they are pre-Celtic. Bergerol & TULOU wrote in their Encyclical Dictionary (Paris 1892): Sequania, Old Gallic city which included the Franche-Comte and part of Burgundy located near the headwaters of the Seine. The root-SAK (SEK-,-SIK, SOK-,-SUK) is pre-Indo-European, it is a basic oronymique which is reflected beautifully in the Col de la Seigne (Alps-French-Italian border, 2512 m. of alt.) SW of Mont Blanc. Seine and Saone therefore derive their name from the ridge that separates their basins.

(Again, badly translated)
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Re: Sun/Solar Deities
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2012, 01:54:33 pm »
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   .......
Heh, thank you! I'd have gone nuts trying to write all that again.
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2012, 06:09:17 pm »
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Ah... I'm beginning to be more certain that my vision may not have been of Her. Still! Always a lover of learning mythology/history, here. :) Or who knows, She might stop by again and I'll be better prepared. About the flooding, thanks for asking, me and mine are blessedly comfortable and safe, well-stocked while waiting for the waters to drain out the first floor so that we can use the front door again without scuba gear. (Only a slight exaggeration, that.)





So. About Sequana, I messaged NibbleKat with an encounter I had about five years back, during an episode of sleep paralysis. Solar deity, female-shaped, even gave me a name that sounded like Sequana, but I completely missed out on any and all mythology about Sequana so I ended up researching Sekhmet. Snipped some other details since... just in case anything else matches up, I'd like to be as pleasantly surprised as I was with matching the syllables. Thanks so much to NK for taking the time!



Wow NibbleKat! The information on Sequana and references are great :D Thanks so much! (Thanks also Triple for posting it :)) Also,I'm quite curious NK about your vision of Sirona and a deer in Feb of 2011? If you dont mind. :) I have always been drawn to deer and Sirona fascinated me also.

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2012, 11:40:13 am »
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Wow NibbleKat! The information on Sequana and references are great :D Thanks so much! (Thanks also Triple for posting it :)) Also,I'm quite curious NK about your vision of Sirona and a deer in Feb of 2011? If you dont mind. :) I have always been drawn to deer and Sirona fascinated me also.

 
What I'll do is something similar I did for Triple-- it might take me a while, so I'll just start writing it out on a Word document and then email it to you.  If I can't get it all done today, it might not come on the weekend, because I really only have net access at work, so you'll have to be patient!
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