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Author Topic: What do the gods get out of us?  (Read 3085 times)

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Re: What do the gods get out of us?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2013, 01:27:41 pm »
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Basically, I'm wondering what use we are to the gods. I don't think they hang around us just for companionship or the warm fuzzies, so what exactly do they derive from a mutual relationship with humans? A lot of people seem to be very focused on what gods can do for them, but don't consider that the gods aren't always completely altruistic. It's only natural that if we are getting something out of interacting with them, prayers, worship, etc, then they're getting something out of it too. But I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what that is.

 
I think it depends on the pantheon and the practitioner.
In Kemetic mythology, the Creator deity got lonely and created people. Sometimes we come from tears, sometimes sweat... but almost always some sort of bodily fluid.

It's  my personal belief that the gods do get benefit from us. In Kemetic practice, we help them help us. We maintain their cult, give them energy through offerings, ritual, liturgy, etc. And they use that energy to make things happen.
In Shinto, the Kami are all around us. They are in the dirt, the trees, plants, rocks, sunlight- etc. They are very much a part of this realm, and so they are going to need us around to help maintain that as well.

I personally think that the gods can get benefit out of us. Set has things for me to do. He constantly is bugging me to do stuff- and we haven't even gotten to the 'big stuff' yet that is apparently looming in the future once I'm done. For those of us who can move btwn realms, it's possible that they have interest in us because we can cause change in other realms... and that can help the gods, etc.

Food for thought.

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Re: What do the gods get out of us?
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2016, 03:34:32 pm »
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Basically, I'm wondering what use we are to the gods. I don't think they hang around us just for companionship or the warm fuzzies, so what exactly do they derive from a mutual relationship with humans? A lot of people seem to be very focused on what gods can do for them, but don't consider that the gods aren't always completely altruistic. It's only natural that if we are getting something out of interacting with them, prayers, worship, etc, then they're getting something out of it too. But I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what that is.


devotion, sacrifices and oifferings we make in their names, helping their pantheons to grow and spread by dissiminating information online for others to seek out, entertainment when we make (non offensive) mistakes, satisfaction when we better ourselves in the ways they think we should, and depending on your particular pantheon, perhaps continued devotion and/or servitude in the afterlife.

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Re: What do the gods get out of us?
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2016, 07:07:44 pm »
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Basically, I'm wondering what use we are to the gods. I don't think they hang around us just for companionship or the warm fuzzies, so what exactly do they derive from a mutual relationship with humans? A lot of people seem to be very focused on what gods can do for them, but don't consider that the gods aren't always completely altruistic. It's only natural that if we are getting something out of interacting with them, prayers, worship, etc, then they're getting something out of it too. But I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what that is.

 
I see it as an... education of sorts. Or a sponsorship.

Lets mention one example.. I've gotten a lot of personal advice from one specific God on how to live my life better, which, I've realized, is very sound advice that could potentially make me a lot happier, and my impact in this world a lot sounder. This is in some ways a God of happiness and passion, so in one way, I suspect one of his motives is simply to make the world a happier place, because that would be nice. If I became a great person and started influencing other people in a good way, then they too could be happier! Perfect plan, spreading like a virus of sunshine and LOL's. He might have other motives, of course. But he hasn't mentioned them as of yet, so it's not really my business at this point in time.

Some Gods have their individual domains. I wouldn't be surprised if many land Gods have environmental goals for the shaping and/or care-taking of their physical domains. Humans, after all, are the perfect landscapers. Others, like my friend and guide mentioned above, is just going all SMILE SOME DAMNIT LOL. MWA HA.

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I don't think it is JUST slap-stick humor. Some gods genuinely want us to grow. But if a lesson can be effective AND funny at the same time, why not take the opportunity to LOL?
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There! In the trees! Something stalking me! Stop walking around!
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... other than the trees and the night and a beam of light, and the breathing in my ear...
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