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Re: Set
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2013, 09:58:23 pm »
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What I mean is: is it easy for someone who never worked with Him before to start a relationship with Him? As far as I am concerned, some deities are more friendly to newcomers and it's easier to build a relationship with them. That's what I meant, I'm sorry my English isn't that good :o

 
Well, he's approachable enough for the most part, I've found.

Just from personal experience, he's not unreasonable, but he'll lean on you pretty hard to help you become stronger. More capable of being independent. And sometimes, things around him go topsy-turvy and you're stuck in the middle of it. You have to learn to relax. You do what you can to come out on the other side intact.

I tend to experience Set as more a god of chaos than a god of strength (even though I'm aware he's god of both) or anything else. I've come to appreciate his place in the world, what he does, and how he does it. It's painful and hard to deal with, but soooooo worth it in the end. There are things in my life today, looking back, that wouldn't have been possible without Set.
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Re: Set
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2013, 10:14:41 pm »
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What I mean is: is it easy for someone who never worked with Him before to start a relationship with Him? As far as I am concerned, some deities are more friendly to newcomers and it's easier to build a relationship with them.


I'm not a follower of Set in particular, but I do honor Him at various times. I've found Him surprisingly easy to get along with, but that may be because I'm not doing His work, so He has nothing really invested in me. (He's thumped me upside the head at least once for being stupid and cowardly, but He doesn't need to break me and then put me back together. ^_^ )

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Re: Set
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2013, 05:45:59 am »
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He's not hard to approach.  However, relationships with him are NOT easy.*  Set asks everything of you, especially things you don't want to give, and you have to make the decision as to what he's going to get.

* Disclaimer: I'm owned by him, so my point of view is a little skewed.

Things I don't want to give.. I won't ask what things because it's personal, but you made me curious there.
 
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So true.  I didn't choose him .  He choose me.  It is like being smacked upside the head.  I have to say that it is never boring.  He appears in my dreams a lot.

How does He appear in your dreams? :)

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Well, he's approachable enough for the most part, I've found.

Just from personal experience, he's not unreasonable, but he'll lean on you pretty hard to help you become stronger. More capable of being independent. And sometimes, things around him go topsy-turvy and you're stuck in the middle of it. You have to learn to relax. You do what you can to come out on the other side intact.

I tend to experience Set as more a god of chaos than a god of strength (even though I'm aware he's god of both) or anything else. I've come to appreciate his place in the world, what he does, and how he does it. It's painful and hard to deal with, but soooooo worth it in the end. There are things in my life today, looking back, that wouldn't have been possible without Set.

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I'm not a follower of Set in particular, but I do honor Him at various times. I've found Him surprisingly easy to get along with, but that may be because I'm not doing His work, so He has nothing really invested in me. (He's thumped me upside the head at least once for being stupid and cowardly, but He doesn't need to break me and then put me back together. ^_^ )

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He sounds more like a demanding strict teacher who expects a lot from you, but is willing to give you a lot as well. To be honest, I'm kind of terrified, lol.
I'm not really sure if I can handle this right now, but do you think I should give it a go?
I searched on the internet about Him and I can say I'm really fascinated by the myths about him and such.
I found this:  His favorite - some say only - food was the lettuce (which secreted a white, milky substance that the Egyptians linked to semen and was sacred to the fertility god Min), but even with this aphrodisiac, he was still thought to have been infertile.
What offerings does He like?

I found this, is it correct?
Candle Colors: red, black, purple, white, silver, and gold
Offerings: gemstones such as black diamonds, herbs such as hemp, orris root, or thistle, liquids such as beer, or wine, any metals (iron was said to be the bones of Seth), perfumes with civet or musk
« Last Edit: January 07, 2013, 05:55:54 am by Ariadne »
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Re: Set
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2013, 09:43:45 am »
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He sounds more like a demanding strict teacher who expects a lot from you, but is willing to give you a lot as well. To be honest, I'm kind of terrified, lol.
I'm not really sure if I can handle this right now, but do you think I should give it a go?


I think you should read and learn more about Set first.  I recommend Seth, God of Confusion by H. Te Velde.  It can be found as a free pdf online and is, in my opinion, the preeminent work on Him.

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I searched on the internet about Him and I can say I'm really fascinated by the myths about him and such.
I found this:  His favorite - some say only - food was the lettuce (which secreted a white, milky substance that the Egyptians linked to semen and was sacred to the fertility god Min), but even with this aphrodisiac, he was still thought to have been infertile.
What offerings does He like?

I found this, is it correct?
Candle Colors: red, black, purple, white, silver, and gold
Offerings: gemstones such as black diamonds, herbs such as hemp, orris root, or thistle, liquids such as beer, or wine, any metals (iron was said to be the bones of Seth), perfumes with civet or musk

 
I do give him lettuces - in fact, I grow them in an AeroGarden for him.  

As for offerings, try cool water, bread, and/or beer.  These things are, traditionally, acceptable to most (if not all) of the Netjeru.

In my experience, with the Netjeru one shouldn't get hung up on candle colors, gemstone correspondences, and such unless specifically asked for them.
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Re: Set
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2013, 09:51:55 am »
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I think you should read and learn more about Set first.  I recommend Seth, God of Confusion by H. Te Velde.  It can be found as a free pdf online and is, in my opinion, the preeminent work on Him.


 
I do give him lettuces - in fact, I grow them in an AeroGarden for him.  

As for offerings, try cool water, bread, and/or beer.  These things are, traditionally, acceptable to most (if not all) of the Netjeru.

In my experience, with the Netjeru one shouldn't get hung up on candle colors, gemstone correspondences, and such unless specifically asked for them.

 
Thank you, I found the book as a pdf file, thankfully. I'll read it and maybe start doing a few offerings. Do you have a shrine for Him? If so, what it includes? (it's okay if you don't feel like answering this, maybe it's too personal)
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Re: Set
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2013, 09:58:23 am »
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In my experience, with the Netjeru one shouldn't get hung up on candle colors, gemstone correspondences, and such unless specifically asked for them.

 
I'll add here, Ariadne, that trying to match deities of any cultural background into a correspondence table often doesn't work well.

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Re: Set
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2013, 10:04:18 am »
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I'll add here, Ariadne, that trying to match deities of any cultural background into a correspondence table often doesn't work well.

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You're right, I'm sorry. The information I posted I found it online, that's why I asked about it here. I trust you guys more and I rely on your experiences.
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Re: Set
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2013, 10:05:07 am »
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Thank you, I found the book as a pdf file, thankfully. I'll read it and maybe start doing a few offerings. Do you have a shrine for Him? If so, what it includes? (it's okay if you don't feel like answering this, maybe it's too personal)


I'm actually in the midst of redoing Neb.y's shrine, but it used to include the following:

  • An AeroGarden
  • A hand-blown glass aardvark
  • A footed offering dish for solid offerings
  • A hand-blown glass for liquid offerings
  • A censer
  • A bowl of sand

 
There are other things as well, but they're a little more personal and directly related to the work I do for Him.
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Re: Set
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2013, 10:10:59 am »
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I'm actually in the midst of redoing Neb.y's shrine, but it used to include the following:

  • An AeroGarden
  • A hand-blown glass aardvark
  • A footed offering dish for solid offerings
  • A hand-blown glass for liquid offerings
  • A censer
  • A bowl of sand

 
There are other things as well, but they're a little more personal and directly related to the work I do for Him.

 
Thanks! An AeroGarden? I've never heard of it before. I searched it on google and it looks pretty cool!
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Re: Set
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2013, 10:17:38 am »
Hi Ariadne :) ,

don't know if this will help, but I'll give it a try.

I do have a certain relationship with Set. Mostly it is not actually relaxing when he appears in my life. I experienced him as a deity who can give you a kick in the *** when you really need it and it's always kind of a challenge if he takes over. I always hated the process while I was in it, but the insight that everything was right as it happened always came afterwards together with a deep gratitude to him. What I didn't see in all my trouble was that he is actually very protective even if one feels head down hanging over the abyss. He's also one of the protecting deities to the pharao.

I mean, he IS sort of a "bad guy" killing his own brother out of jealousy, yet he is the one to protect the sun god Ra from the Apophis snake. His "bad guy"-skills sort of enable him to fight this serious threat to one of our highest deities.

Heh, and I'm not really surprised by the erotic bit about him… I mean, he almost raped Horus (which really got him into trouble with Aset) also Hetheret and he jumped on Anat too… so if you feel attracted by this kind of "masculinity" you might fall for his "charms"... ;)

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Re: Set
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2013, 10:23:40 am »
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I mean, he IS sort of a "bad guy" killing his own brother out of jealousy...


No.  Not out of jealousy.  May I ask where you got this information?

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… I mean, he almost raped Horus (which really got him into trouble with Aset) also Hetheret and he jumped on Anat too… so if you feel attracted by this kind of "masculinity" you might fall for his "charms"... ;)

Cheers,
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This statement is a very simplified summary of a set of complex relationships and interactions that are documented out of sequence and context.  Could you provide a source here as well?
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Re: Set
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2013, 10:32:48 am »
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Hi Ariadne :) ,

don't know if this will help, but I'll give it a try.

I do have a certain relationship with Set. Mostly it is not actually relaxing when he appears in my life. I experienced him as a deity who can give you a kick in the *** when you really need it and it's always kind of a challenge if he takes over. I always hated the process while I was in it, but the insight that everything was right as it happened always came afterwards together with a deep gratitude to him. What I didn't see in all my trouble was that he is actually very protective even if one feels head down hanging over the abyss. He's also one of the protecting deities to the pharao.

I mean, he IS sort of a "bad guy" killing his own brother out of jealousy, yet he is the one to protect the sun god Ra from the Apophis snake. His "bad guy"-skills sort of enable him to fight this serious threat to one of our highest deities.

Heh, and I'm not really surprised by the erotic bit about him… I mean, he almost raped Horus (which really got him into trouble with Aset) also Hetheret and he jumped on Anat too… so if you feel attracted by this kind of "masculinity" you might fall for his "charms"... ;)

Cheers,
Sati

 
To be honest, I don't really know if I'm attracted to all this or this is the reason why I saw him in my sleep. I don't know, at all. I was always a huge fan of red hair, does this count? (just kidding.. I guess)

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No.  Not out of jealousy.  May I ask where you got this information?

This statement is a very simplified summary of a set of complex relationships and interactions that are documented out of sequence and context.  Could you provide a source here as well?


I also read that Set is a jealous God..
http://daughterofmaat.hubpages.com/hub/The-Egyptian-God-of-Deserts-and-Chaos-Seth 5th paragraph
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Re: Set
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2013, 10:35:46 am »
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To be honest, I don't really know if I'm attracted to all this or this is the reason why I saw him in my sleep. I don't know, at all. I was always a huge fan of red hair, does this count? (just kidding.. I guess)


 
An affinity for red hair seems to be a surprisingly common thing for those who associate(that really doesn't feel like the right word) with Him.
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Re: Set
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2013, 10:42:52 am »
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An affinity for red hair seems to be a surprisingly common thing for those who associate(that really doesn't feel like the right word) with Him.

 
Yup, I read that his followers had red hair. Also that Ramesses II and his father Seti I, both had red hair and also had a 'connection' with Him (or something like that, I don't remember the exact word but you get the point).
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