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Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« on: September 10, 2011, 04:16:57 pm »
I know some Gods/Goddesses are given a bad reputation sometimes without actually being all that bad. And, considering I don't believe in any sort of absolute evil, I can't really see myself agreeing with such reputations in most cases.

However, I've had some interesting experiences that have led me to believe Set has been involved. I don't know if he's been spawning negativity in my life lately just for the fun of it, or if he's been trying to teach me some important lessons.

Regardless of his intention, lessons were learned and Anubis was present towards the end of it, carrying that negativity off to the other-realms.

So I'm just wondering what experiences some other people have had with Set. Is he likely to be aiding one of my patron Gods in helping me heal some old wounds? Or he up to mischief?

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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2011, 05:25:31 pm »
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So I'm just wondering what experiences some other people have had with Set. Is he likely to be aiding one of my patron Gods in helping me heal some old wounds? Or he up to mischief?

 
Yes.

Naydler refers to Neb.y as "the Dread Initiator".  All of the awfulness of transition experiences falls within His realm.  "What does not kill me makes me stronger" with the footnote "except if I'm Wesir, in which case what does kill me makes me stronger".

In the ideal state of proper process of mythos, the chaos and dissolution is later encompassed by a greater order - basically, a whole system that can handle both the unification and the experience of dissolution, represented by the Eye of Heru, the whole which is more than its parts.  (cite: te Velde.)  This is the post-initiate, post-crisis, the broken-bone-heals-stronger.

However.

Himself does not, as a rule, have a whole hell of a lot invested in whether any given person survives the initiatory experience.  His world is win-win: either someone becomes stronger and capable of overcoming what He throws at them (a win: He likes strength) or they crumple under the pressure (a win: He likes breaking shit).

Your outcomes dealing with Big Red are fundamentally up to you; He won't help you get the "right one".  He won't even tell you what the "positive" outcome, if any, is; the best and most informative feedback one gets from Set is right after one says "FUCK YOU SIDEWAYS, I'M DOING IT MY WAY AND I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK," which is of course right after the point at which the feedback might have been useful.

Anpu showing up at the end is consistent with the mythologies, for what that's worth; He would be someone who cares about the outcome.  A big chunk of His role is the binding together of the separated, much as Set's function is divison; the two of them are integral parts of such processes.
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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2011, 05:37:45 pm »
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Yes.

Naydler refers to Neb.y as "the Dread Initiator".  All of the awfulness of transition experiences falls within His realm.  "What does not kill me makes me stronger" with the footnote "except if I'm Wesir, in which case what does kill me makes me stronger".

In the ideal state of proper process of mythos, the chaos and dissolution is later encompassed by a greater order - basically, a whole system that can handle both the unification and the experience of dissolution, represented by the Eye of Heru, the whole which is more than its parts.  (cite: te Velde.)  This is the post-initiate, post-crisis, the broken-bone-heals-stronger.

However.

Himself does not, as a rule, have a whole hell of a lot invested in whether any given person survives the initiatory experience.  His world is win-win: either someone becomes stronger and capable of overcoming what He throws at them (a win: He likes strength) or they crumple under the pressure (a win: He likes breaking shit).

Your outcomes dealing with Big Red are fundamentally up to you; He won't help you get the "right one".  He won't even tell you what the "positive" outcome, if any, is; the best and most informative feedback one gets from Set is right after one says "FUCK YOU SIDEWAYS, I'M DOING IT MY WAY AND I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK," which is of course right after the point at which the feedback might have been useful.

Anpu showing up at the end is consistent with the mythologies, for what that's worth; He would be someone who cares about the outcome.  A big chunk of His role is the binding together of the separated, much as Set's function is divison; the two of them are integral parts of such processes.

 
Thank you for that! That's given me far more insight to Set than I could have asked to receive at any single time. I think I'm going to spend some time reading up on him to understand him a little better. I can't say I'd be interested in asking him for any guidance on a regular basis, but I do think some thank yous are in order.

Any advice on offerings he might like? Something out of the ordinary that I may not have considered myself, perhaps?

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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2011, 06:01:52 pm »
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Thank you for that! That's given me far more insight to Set than I could have asked to receive at any single time. I think I'm going to spend some time reading up on him to understand him a little better. I can't say I'd be interested in asking him for any guidance on a regular basis, but I do think some thank yous are in order.


Himself has me in training to be His priest (for lack of a better word), so I hope I get it right on occasion. ;)

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Any advice on offerings he might like? Something out of the ordinary that I may not have considered myself, perhaps?

 
Hard alcohol, spicy meat dishes (especially pork), green salad, and kinky sex. :P
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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2011, 06:25:25 pm »
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 Hard alcohol, spicy meat dishes (especially pork), green salad, and kinky sex. :P

 
Excellent. I can manage all of that. You've been a great help, Darkhawk. Thanks very much, again.

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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 10:09:35 pm »
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Thank you for that! That's given me far more insight to Set than I could have asked to receive at any single time. I think I'm going to spend some time reading up on him to understand him a little better. I can't say I'd be interested in asking him for any guidance on a regular basis, but I do think some thank yous are in order.

Any advice on offerings he might like? Something out of the ordinary that I may not have considered myself, perhaps?

 
I would like to add that I more or less agree with what Darkhawk has said about Set. Set likes to push you to your limits, and then push you some more. With myself personally, he has stopped only when I truly am to my breaking point (which my definition of breaking point, and his definition don't always line up). And then, the one problem will go away, only to be replaced by new challenges. Usually, when I'm getting frustrated or broken down, he merely tells me to get back up again. That laying there half dead on the floor will not fix it.

I would also warn you against reading things on the internet about him. Lots o stuff you turn up from google will be wrong. The best source, IMO on Set is te Velde's book, which you can find on scribd.

As for offerings, I find he likes salad (even better with a creamy white dressing), and he loves these dark chocolate cupcakes I buy from Fresh n Easy. Many people have had good success with liquor/alcohol with him, but I don't drink, so he doesn't expect it from me.

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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2011, 10:36:55 pm »
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I would like to add that I more or less agree with what Darkhawk has said about Set. Set likes to push you to your limits, and then push you some more. With myself personally, he has stopped only when I truly am to my breaking point (which my definition of breaking point, and his definition don't always line up). And then, the one problem will go away, only to be replaced by new challenges.

 
My current theory is that I would have much less religious work if more of it were going well.  And that's not because more of it would get done.

"Oh, you're stuck on that?  Can't make any progress?  Why don't you do THIS instead?"

"... up yours."

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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2011, 12:27:07 am »
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My current theory is that I would have much less religious work if more of it were going well.  And that's not because more of it would get done.

"Oh, you're stuck on that?  Can't make any progress?  Why don't you do THIS instead?"

"... up yours."

"You're welcome!"

 
I could see this situation occurring. Normally, I get frustrated at him, and ask him why the hell he's doing this, and why he can't make things move or help out, and he tells me to quit my whining. More and more, I just don't bother to whine anymore, as it doesn't help me any.

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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2011, 05:50:09 am »
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salad (even better with a creamy white dressing)

 
Is that as full of symbolic innuendo as I think it is, or do I just have a lewd mind?

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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2011, 06:22:04 am »
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Is that as full of symbolic innuendo as I think it is, or do I just have a lewd mind?

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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2011, 11:18:15 am »
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Is that as full of symbolic innuendo as I think it is, or do I just have a lewd mind?

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Ha ha, what Chabas said.

Phallus salad, anyone?

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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2011, 12:44:49 pm »
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Is that as full of symbolic innuendo as I think it is, or do I just have a lewd mind?

 
That is in fact why He likes green salad - Egyptian lettuce was known for exuding creamy white stuff, and was thus considered an aphrodesiac for the obvious reasons.
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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2011, 02:22:07 pm »
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"Oh, you're stuck on that?  Can't make any progress?  Why don't you do THIS instead?"

"... up yours."

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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2011, 06:46:28 pm »
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Re: Set: "Good" or "Bad"?
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2011, 11:06:58 pm »
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Sure you should - that's how He gets you. ;)

 
It's funny you say that since I was just wondering why he didn't get me. Instead of Hisself's lovely bit of chaos, I got it from another quarter. Hell, another pantheon entirely. I'm both mystified and hurt, but also intrigued and confused.

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