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Author Topic: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?  (Read 8116 times)

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How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« on: March 10, 2012, 06:31:42 pm »
I was talking with Bastemhet on one of my more recent blog entries about being "brutally rebuffed" by gods when you approach them. She mentioned that she's never heard an instance in which the netjeru have done this (and neither have I, actually). I've heard, however, that some of the other gods aren't quite as polite about things like this at times. So, with that in mind...

1. Have you ever been rebuffed by a god/spirit/OTHER(tm) before?
2. Was it polite or impolite?
3. Would you care to share the experience? If so, please do!
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 06:32:22 pm by SatSekhem »
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 06:35:43 pm »
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I was talking with Bastemhet on one of my more recent blog entries about being "brutally rebuffed" by gods when you approach them. She mentioned that she's never heard an instance in which the netjeru have done this (and neither have I, actually). I've heard, however, that some of the other gods aren't quite as polite about things like this at times. So, with that in mind...

I've been totally and completely ignored by deities I was interested in (or thought I was interested in). Some might take this as a brutal rebuff I suppose.
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 07:18:09 pm »
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I've been totally and completely ignored by deities I was interested in (or thought I was interested in). Some might take this as a brutal rebuff I suppose.

 
I"ve had that happen to me, too. Actually, I think that's happened to more often than not!
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 08:36:18 pm »
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I was talking with Bastemhet on one of my more recent blog entries about being "brutally rebuffed" by gods when you approach them. She mentioned that she's never heard an instance in which the netjeru have done this (and neither have I, actually). I've heard, however, that some of the other gods aren't quite as polite about things like this at times. So, with that in mind...

1. Have you ever been rebuffed by a god/spirit/OTHER(tm) before?
2. Was it polite or impolite?
3. Would you care to share the experience? If so, please do!


I can't say i've been brutally rebuffed by any of the netjeru or any other god / goddess for that matter.  The closet I've probably come is between two of them, specifically Mafdet and Poseidon.  Then I am not even sure that is true for i'll go weeks if not months and not think of them then I am overwhelmed with a sense of them.  Yet as soon as I go looking the quiet becomes deafening in its loudness.

But to actually go forth and try to make any of them notice me was never a factor for I never had any urge to.  I've pretty much always stuck with those few that made themselves known to me and called me.

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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2012, 10:25:31 pm »
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1. Have you ever been rebuffed by a god/spirit/OTHER(tm) before?
2. Was it polite or impolite?
3. Would you care to share the experience? If so, please do!

 
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I started to become suspicious and asked what was going on. The reply I got was a "not now, not yet" sort of thing. It was polite, but stern and I must admit at the time I was confused and a little sensitive about it. However I understand now what was going on and why and am in no way bothered by the response to my request.
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2012, 05:10:25 am »
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I've been totally and completely ignored by deities I was interested in (or thought I was interested in). Some might take this as a brutal rebuff I suppose.

 
This.

Once upon a time I tried to devote myself to Aine... I was even convinced she had possiby twapped me. And for awhile, She was there when I lit candles for Her- a gentle, warm glow that wrapped around the candle and projected around the room... but even that response faded over time, and my worship to Her didn't really bring any changes in my life. Since that relationship was not going anywhere, I eventually dropped it, taking it as a sign that if She was even interested in me in first place, that interest had faded. But I would call it a polite breakup more than a brutal rejection.

Utter silence was received from other deities, like Aphrodite and Brighid, some of the which I still honor during seasonal cycles celebrations. I didn't take it personally.
Hermes used to silent for years too, right up to when He made first hand contact started to announce His presence loud and clear.
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2012, 09:01:39 am »
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I"ve had that happen to me, too. Actually, I think that's happened to more often than not!

I suspect a lot of people have had this happen to them. It seems like it would be a relatively common response.
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2012, 11:40:53 am »
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I suspect a lot of people have had this happen to them. It seems like it would be a relatively common response.

 
Probably. It's a polite way of saying, "Aw. Cute. But, no." :)
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2012, 11:55:19 am »
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Probably. It's a polite way of saying, "Aw. Cute. But, no." :)

 
Interestingly enough this was kind of the topic of my Pagan Blog Project post this week. I'm in a period of wondering about whether this was the case with the Morrigan. While I felt her moving strongly in my life for a period of a few months, after I dedicated myself to her, not so much.

It could be that it's just a quiet period, or I was mistaken. How does one tell the difference?
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2012, 02:11:24 pm »
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It could be that it's just a quiet period, or I was mistaken. How does one tell the difference?

 
Patience.

Worst advice ever, but all I've got. :whis:
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
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Patience.

Worst advice ever, but all I've got. :whis:

 
Yeah, that's where I wound up at the end of my blog. But then, what it is that I am being patient for? If she shows up again in a big way is that conformation? Or what?
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2012, 03:42:16 pm »
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I've been totally and completely ignored by deities I was interested in (or thought I was interested in). Some might take this as a brutal rebuff I suppose.

 
That happened to me :eek:

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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2012, 04:09:26 pm »
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Yeah, that's where I wound up at the end of my blog. But then, what it is that I am being patient for? If she shows up again in a big way is that conformation? Or what?

If she shows back up, then you know that she wants something from you. If not, then you know it wasn't meant to be.
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2012, 06:03:17 pm »
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I was talking with Bastemhet on one of my more recent blog entries about being "brutally rebuffed" by gods when you approach them. She mentioned that she's never heard an instance in which the netjeru have done this (and neither have I, actually). I've heard, however, that some of the other gods aren't quite as polite about things like this at times. So, with that in mind...

1. Have you ever been rebuffed by a god/spirit/OTHER(tm) before?
2. Was it polite or impolite?
3. Would you care to share the experience? If so, please do!


As I've mentioned before, I don't have personal, intimate relationships with gods. On one hand, the rebuffed questions seems impossible because it's not as if the gods would say "no thanks" and just not be the fertility or the storm or anything. They are, and will be, so I can accept them as such.

But even without personal relationships I guess you could be rejected, in a sense. I'm not a "friend of Freyr", because I really have to work at gardening and keeping what does come up alive. Maybe I'd have better luck in this area offering to Kokopelli, but I'm not too keen on finding out right now. This is the culture of gods I've committed to, and that means the ups and downs of it as well.

And, historically, my ancestors would've been stuck with it too. They didn't have any concept of finding new gods or new cultures. The gods were their world good or bad.

Eh. That's my take on it, anyway.
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Re: How Have the Gods Said, "Thanks but No Thanks," to You?
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2012, 09:33:12 pm »
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I was talking with Bastemhet on one of my more recent blog entries about being "brutally rebuffed" by gods when you approach them. She mentioned that she's never heard an instance in which the netjeru have done this (and neither have I, actually). I've heard, however, that some of the other gods aren't quite as polite about things like this at times. So, with that in mind...

1. Have you ever been rebuffed by a god/spirit/OTHER(tm) before?
2. Was it polite or impolite?
3. Would you care to share the experience? If so, please do!

 
I have been rebuffed, in fact it was just this past Imbolc.  I was doing a guided meditation to speak to Brid, the first time it was more like mutual ignoring, not sure what to say to her and I got the impression that she hadn't anything to say to me.  The second time it was when I tried to go back and speak to her again, but every time I got near the cabin I would end up somewhere else.  Being stubborn, I kept trying, actually got my hand on the knob when I was "thrown" somewhere else.  I took that as a sign she didn't want anything to do with me and left. :)

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