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Valeria Crowe

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Re: God's don't care about individuals???
« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2014, 11:13:49 am »
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Got any threads here that I can look over about that?  Or other sites?  Its been awhile since I was in any Satanic circles so not familiar with who you mentioned.  The CoS really burned me when I so haven't looked into their philosophy in awhile.

 
No, no threads. Haven't discussed Satanism much, here.

On the other hand, my empty, empty blog has a link collection to every theistic satanist I've laid eyes that I liked, including Ms. Vera.

http://etiennesgrimoire.blogspot.com
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Re: Gods don't care about individuals???
« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2014, 11:16:02 am »
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Their have been times in my where I went left when I should have went right and I cannot explain why. Do I believe this is divine intervention? No that wouldn't be it at all.


Even the Gods/PTB are bound by the Weave.  So are we.  It is not really divine intervention per se, but the Orlog/Fate/Destiny/Order that has already been Weaved for you.   Your Wyrd is the personal choice you take at each step.

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I feel is the Gods treat us similar to how a fish enthusiast would feel about his fish tank.


I agree with that.  My beliefs have gotten very refined as the years have gone by.  Chaos and Order are how I view everything now.  Everything falls within those Two.

 
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While I don't view us a pets to the Gods


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Re: God's don't care about individuals???
« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2014, 11:19:40 am »
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No, no threads. Haven't discussed Satanism much, here.


Worried the Cauldron will bite?  Trust me, if they allow ME here, unless you are into sacrifice, the mods arent going to bring a ban hammer down.  Besides would give me something familiar to chew on.  LOL

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On the other hand, my empty, empty blog has a link collection to every theistic satanist I've laid eyes that I liked, including Ms. Vera.

http://etiennesgrimoire.blogspot.com


I'll check it out... perchance have you studied Temple of Set (ToS) or Luciferianism?
My beliefs are my own.  I do not speak for anyone else.  It is my personal perspective.  
I am not the Way or the Truth.  No Man or Woman can reach their God/dess through me.


When people ask me, "What give you the right to suggest standards for others?",
my answer is, "If I don\'t, someone else, perhaps less qualified, will."
History has proven that qualification is based on acceptance. The end justifies the means. - LaVey

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Re: God's don't care about individuals???
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2014, 11:49:26 am »
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Worried the Cauldron will bite?  Trust me, if they allow ME here, unless you are into sacrifice, the mods arent going to bring a ban hammer down.  Besides would give me something familiar to chew on.  LOL



I'll check it out... perchance have you studied Temple of Set (ToS) or Luciferianism?

 
Worried, no. Hardly. Just hasn't come up in any details, really. I talked about a spiritual experience where I saw what I believe was a demon, mentioned my perspective on Satan, pointed out a few people who I saw as insulting Satanists and cleared up misconceptions... just never started a "What I believe" thread or discussed details. I'll leave that until I've hammered them out.

I did study the Temple of Set a few years ago, and though the details are foggy I remember finding them interesting in an abstract way, but having no personal apeal.

Luciferianism seems such a broad, general belief that I honestly can't wrap my head around it, there are so few concrete details. I do find their focus on enlightenment and non-material spirituality to be... well, frankly, exactly what I'm not into.
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Re: God's don't care about individuals???
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2014, 09:48:09 pm »
Quote from: dionysiandame;162098

Loki. 6-7 months. Did I mention I didn't ask for that shit AT ALL?


I don't think anyone with any sense asks for Loki. He shows up in my life from time to time. Makes things interesting in ways I didn't ask for but apparently needed.

Anyway...

Even if the Gods are interested in us on an individual level, I don't see them coming every time you need to wipe your ass. Or, to be less crude... if I need help from my father, I've got it, whenever, because I've only ever asked him for help when I absolutely needed it. And not every time I needed to change a light bulb/get an oil change/hammer a nail. Know what I mean?

So I don't think the Gods are going to intercede in every little annoyance in your life, no matter how much (and maybe in spite of) you beg/plead/whine at them. But for the big things, the things that you just can't accomplish on your own, the things that you need the oomph for? Sure. Absolutely. But it has to be what you NEED, not merely what you think you WANT.

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