collapse

* "Unable to verify referring url. Please go back and try again" Problem Logging In?

If you get an "Unable to verify referring url. Please go back and try again" error when you try to log in, you need to be sure you are accessing the board with a url that starts with "https://ecauldron.com".  If it starts with https://www.ecauldron.com" (or "http://www.ecauldron.com") you will get this error because "www.ecauldron.com" is not technically the same website as "ecauldron.com". Moving to the more secure "https" means it is more picky about such things.

Author Topic: Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness  (Read 2214 times)

Wooden Star

  • Apprentice
  • ***
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 39
  • Total likes: 0
    • View Profile
Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« on: September 11, 2012, 12:52:20 am »
I'm just starting to learn about Gods and Goddesses and I have a question, are night/dark ones thought of as bad? I really like the dark, night, etc but I'm wondering if they are bad to worship or try to connect with?

Thanks :)

Asch

  • Sr. Master Member
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 883
  • Total likes: 5
    • View Profile
Re: Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2012, 01:18:40 am »
Quote from: Wooden Star;73478
I'm just starting to learn about Gods and Goddesses and I have a question, are night/dark ones thought of as bad? I really like the dark, night, etc but I'm wondering if they are bad to worship or try to connect with?

Thanks :)

 
No, not as such. Your best bet is to simply research a deity prior to contact, find out about their history and mythology, the cultures that worshipped them etc. AFAIK aside from the Christian's Satan there are few, if any inherently 'evil' deities.

SatAset

  • Master Member
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 482
  • Country: us
  • Total likes: 6
    • View Profile
    • Fiercely Bright One
  • Religion: Kemetic Orthodox
  • Preferred Pronouns: She, Her
Re: Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2012, 01:46:23 am »
Quote from: Wooden Star;73478
I'm just starting to learn about Gods and Goddesses and I have a question, are night/dark ones thought of as bad? I really like the dark, night, etc but I'm wondering if they are bad to worship or try to connect with?

Thanks :)


From the Egyptian Pantheon, Nut is the goddess of the night sky.  She is the Mother of the Dead and the Mother of the Sun God as well as five other gods and goddesses from the pantheon.  She's not evil.  

There is a group here called the Doors of the Sky dedicated to Nut or other forms of the Goddess of the Night Sky and Stars (Nut, Aset-Nut, Hetharu-Nut, the Star Goddess etc).
I am the Goddess of Who I can Become. I mix the magic of the sorceress with the blade of a warrior. I walk the liminal pathways to see the face of the Goddess, both terrible and kind. As She stares back at me, I tremble in awe and ecstasy.  --SatAset

Valentine

  • Sr. Master Member
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 936
  • Country: us
  • Total likes: 79
    • View Profile
  • Religion: get free; get others free; make new life in the aftermath
  • Preferred Pronouns: she/her
Re: Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2012, 01:52:01 am »
Quote from: Wooden Star;73478
I'm just starting to learn about Gods and Goddesses and I have a question, are night/dark ones thought of as bad? I really like the dark, night, etc but I'm wondering if they are bad to worship or try to connect with?

Thanks :)

 
There is nothing inherently bad or dangerous about the night, the dark, or deities associated with same.  Some deities associated with night or darkness are benevolent, heroic, kind, or nurturing; some are malevolent, aloof, devouring, or antagonistic, same as many other things there might be a God of.  Humans have often been frightened of the dark or the night-time, and have placed those fears with the deities associated with those things, but that doesn't mean there aren't positive aspects, too.

Generally, Gods and Goddesses associated with darkness or the night might share any of a broad spectrum of traits night and darkness themselves have: concealment, hiding, holding, enveloping, swallowing/devouring, dangerous, protective, of the night sky/heavens, of the underground/underworld, of the insides of things, of the outer void, fullness, emptiness, coldness, warmth, isolating, encompassing, violent, peaceful, chaotic, orderly, connected to death, connected to sleep, connected to birth, all manner of things.  Different people and cultures see different things in the dark.  Some cultures see Mysteries as a darkness to enter, and some as enlightenment or illumination.  Some cultures associate shadows primarily with brightness and daytime, and others with midnight.  

What I'm saying is:  there is a huge variety of deities associated with night and darkness, with a huge variety of personalities and qualities, and some are "bad," and most are not.  It's worth looking into.  I personally pray to a Goddess who is strongly associated with the night, and the first thing I ever felt I truly belonged to was the night, myself, and that has gone well for me.  I can't speak for anyone else on the matter.
"Let be be finale of seem." - Wallace Stevens, "The Emperor of Ice-Cream"
"There isn't a way things should be.  There's just what happens, and what we do."
- Terry Pratchett, "A Hat Full of Sky"

Wooden Star

  • Apprentice
  • ***
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 39
  • Total likes: 0
    • View Profile
Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2012, 03:19:09 am »
Quote from: Valentine;73488
There is nothing inherently bad or dangerous about the night, the dark, or deities associated with same.  Some deities associated with night or darkness are benevolent, heroic, kind, or nurturing; some are malevolent, aloof, devouring, or antagonistic, same as many other things there might be a God of.  Humans have often been frightened of the dark or the night-time, and have placed those fears with the deities associated with those things, but that doesn't mean there aren't positive aspects, too.

Generally, Gods and Goddesses associated with darkness or the night might share any of a broad spectrum of traits night and darkness themselves have: concealment, hiding, holding, enveloping, swallowing/devouring, dangerous, protective, of the night sky/heavens, of the underground/underworld, of the insides of things, of the outer void, fullness, emptiness, coldness, warmth, isolating, encompassing, violent, peaceful, chaotic, orderly, connected to death, connected to sleep, connected to birth, all manner of things.  Different people and cultures see different things in the dark.  Some cultures see Mysteries as a darkness to enter, and some as enlightenment or illumination.  Some cultures associate shadows primarily with brightness and daytime, and others with midnight.  

What I'm saying is:  there is a huge variety of deities associated with night and darkness, with a huge variety of personalities and qualities, and some are "bad," and most are not.  It's worth looking into.  I personally pray to a Goddess who is strongly associated with the night, and the first thing I ever felt I truly belonged to was the night, myself, and that has gone well for me.  I can't speak for anyone else on the matter.

Alright, thank you. I was reading short articles on a few night Gods because I personally love the night, but I wasn't sure on the whole subject as I'm new to Paganism in general.

Thanks to everyone else as well, I will research certain Deities more in depth.

NibbleKat

  • Master Member
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 401
  • Total likes: 0
    • View Profile
    • http://nibblekat.deviantart.com
Re: Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2012, 03:30:45 pm »
Quote from: Wooden Star;73498
Alright, thank you. I was reading short articles on a few night Gods because I personally love the night, but I wasn't sure on the whole subject as I'm new to Paganism in general.

Thanks to everyone else as well, I will research certain Deities more in depth.

I worship a Celtic star goddess, Sirona.  She's mainly a river/hot springs goddess, but her name means "Star", and she's definitely a celestial one.  For me, personally, she's distant, hard to reach emotionally and through ritual, but she's not "bad"  to worship.  In fact, I have referred to her as the "light in the darkness."  To me, night doesn't=bad, negative, etc.  It's like the OP said up there about there being more mystery, hidden things, the beauty of the heavens that she means to me; especially of creation and immortality. So.  Yeah.  

If you are interested in deities associated with night, go for it, I say, but definitely do your research! They're not ALL the same, and while I don't know of any off the top of my head, some might be less warm and fuzzy than others.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2012, 03:31:32 pm by NibbleKat »
I do altar art, icons, and pagan art!
http://nibblekat.deviantart.com
Ask if you\'re interested.

Wooden Star

  • Apprentice
  • ***
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 39
  • Total likes: 0
    • View Profile
Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2012, 04:53:27 pm »
Quote from: NibbleKat;73552
I worship a Celtic star goddess, Sirona.  She's mainly a river/hot springs goddess, but her name means "Star", and she's definitely a celestial one.  For me, personally, she's distant, hard to reach emotionally and through ritual, but she's not "bad"  to worship.  In fact, I have referred to her as the "light in the darkness."  To me, night doesn't=bad, negative, etc.  It's like the OP said up there about there being more mystery, hidden things, the beauty of the heavens that she means to me; especially of creation and immortality. So.  Yeah.  

If you are interested in deities associated with night, go for it, I say, but definitely do your research! They're not ALL the same, and while I don't know of any off the top of my head, some might be less warm and fuzzy than others.

Thanks! I was actually looking at Sirona and am very drawn to her :)

NibbleKat

  • Master Member
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 401
  • Total likes: 0
    • View Profile
    • http://nibblekat.deviantart.com
Re: Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2012, 05:41:05 pm »
Quote from: Wooden Star;73558
Thanks! I was actually looking at Sirona and am very drawn to her :)

 
Let me PM you something I wrote for someone who ... well. >:( Took the info I took the time to write up for her and just ran without saying anything about it. (Feeding school research paper, anyone?)
I do altar art, icons, and pagan art!
http://nibblekat.deviantart.com
Ask if you\'re interested.

Wooden Star

  • Apprentice
  • ***
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 39
  • Total likes: 0
    • View Profile
Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2012, 05:43:32 pm »
Quote from: NibbleKat;73564
Let me PM you something I wrote for someone who ... well. >:( Took the info I took the time to write up for her and just ran without saying anything about it. (Feeding school research paper, anyone?)

Aw! I would love to read it.

NibbleKat

  • Master Member
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 401
  • Total likes: 0
    • View Profile
    • http://nibblekat.deviantart.com
Re: Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2012, 05:47:11 pm »
Quote from: Wooden Star;73565
Aw! I would love to read it.

 Sent it!
I do altar art, icons, and pagan art!
http://nibblekat.deviantart.com
Ask if you\'re interested.

Wooden Star

  • Apprentice
  • ***
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 39
  • Total likes: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2012, 11:04:55 pm »
Quote from: NibbleKat;73566
Sent it!

 
Thanks! I will read it tonight when things are settled in the house (aka quiet).

Maps

  • Sr. Master Member
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2011
  • Posts: 703
  • Total likes: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Gods and Goddesses of Night/Darkness
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2012, 11:00:05 am »
Quote from: Wooden Star;73478
I'm just starting to learn about Gods and Goddesses and I have a question, are night/dark ones thought of as bad? I really like the dark, night, etc but I'm wondering if they are bad to worship or try to connect with?

Thanks :)

 
I don't think many of us here subscribe to the idea of "bad" and "good" deities. Their personalities and their areas of duty are generally neutral things that can have good or bad consequences for you in a given context or whatever, like running into a storm while you're on a cruise. That same storm, if you hadn't been on that cruise, would be a neutral event from your perspective, and if that same storm happened in a parched region desperate for water, you might see that force as good. So it's all relative, really.

Tags:
 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
8 Replies
3005 Views
Last post March 11, 2017, 03:07:52 pm
by Tom
0 Replies
2239 Views
Last post September 27, 2011, 10:51:23 am
by LyricFox
0 Replies
1632 Views
Last post May 28, 2012, 09:02:28 pm
by RandallS
11 Replies
1157 Views
Last post November 08, 2013, 06:23:45 pm
by Black Sun
13 Replies
1348 Views
Last post September 05, 2016, 07:41:59 pm
by Skumring

* Who's Online

  • Dot Guests: 41
  • Dot Hidden: 0
  • Dot Users: 2
  • Dot Users Online:

* Please Donate!

The Cauldron's server is expensive and requires monthly payments. Please become a Bronze, Silver or Gold Donor if you can. Donations are needed every month. Without member support, we can't afford the server.

* In Memoriam

Chavi (2006)
Elspeth (2010)
Marilyn (2013)

* Cauldron Staff

Host:
Sunflower

Message Board Staff
Board Coordinator:
Darkhawk

Assistant Board Coordinator:
Aster Breo

Senior Staff:
Aisling, Jenett, Sefiru

Staff:
Allaya, Chatelaine, EclecticWheel, HarpingHawke, Kylara, PerditaPickle, rocquelaire

Discord Chat Staff
Chat Coordinator:
Morag

Cauldron Council:
Bob, Catja, Emma-Eldritch, Fausta, Jubes, Kelly, LyricFox, Phouka, Sperran, Star, Steve, Tana

Site Administrator:
Randall