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Author Topic: Compatibility vs. challenges in your relationships with the Divine  (Read 902 times)

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Everyone has things they're good at and things they're bad at, to put it broadly. This applies as much to gods, spirits, and other Powers as it does to humans. How do yours align with those of your Powers, and what does that mean for your practice?

What ways are you compatible with your gods, and how does that shape your practice? For example, if you worship a god concerned with language and have always been good with words, you might write poetry or essays about your faith often.

What ways do your Powers challenge you, and how does that shape your practice? For example, if your gods prefer to use imagery to contact you, and you've always struggled with visualization--what do you do about that? How have you changed and improved as a result, and what do your Powers do to help?
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Re: Compatibility vs. challenges in your relationships with the Divine
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2018, 11:23:03 pm »
Everyone has things they're good at and things they're bad at, to put it broadly. This applies as much to gods, spirits, and other Powers as it does to humans. How do yours align with those of your Powers, and what does that mean for your practice?

What ways are you compatible with your gods, and how does that shape your practice?

I probably relate most to the heavenly Smith God, Svarog. I identify him strongly with other heavenly smiths from neighboring cultures, like Ilmarinen, Kurdalaegon, and Tlepsh. 

I’m fascinated with his role as a creator and craftsmen, as well as an inventor. I have a B.S., and love creative endeavors, so that resonates with me. One of my favorite myths of all time is the meeting of Tlepsh with lady tree. It’s a quest for wisdom, similar to that of the Norse Odin.

It’s not just about worshipping characteristics you already embody however.  I’ve always looked to Perun when I feel like it’s time to be stronger.

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Re: Compatibility vs. challenges in your relationships with the Divine
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2018, 05:11:12 am »
Everyone has things they're good at and things they're bad at, to put it broadly. This applies as much to gods, spirits, and other Powers as it does to humans. How do yours align with those of your Powers, and what does that mean for your practice?

What ways are you compatible with your gods, and how does that shape your practice? For example, if you worship a god concerned with language and have always been good with words, you might write poetry or essays about your faith often.

What ways do your Powers challenge you, and how does that shape your practice? For example, if your gods prefer to use imagery to contact you, and you've always struggled with visualization--what do you do about that? How have you changed and improved as a result, and what do your Powers do to help?

About thirty years ago, when I was seriously starting to think about what kind of a girl I hoped that my God had in mind for me, I wrote down, "Someone who knows music, languages, cooking...things that I'd like to learn. In other words, I want us to be a team that can learn from each other." Now, this was years before I realized that my God was seriously thinking about setting me up with his own daughter. And that kind of blew things away; what could a goddess possibly learn from a mere mortal?

But perhaps there is something. Aside from our meeting in Orlando 25 years back, there have been a number of other 'maybe' Jessica sightings in my life. One was a couple of years after, before I had the dream when I realized just who she really was. I was taking flying lessons and flying semi-regularly out of Hobby Airport; I had raised some eyebrows (not least among the instructors) when I insisted upon doing so in the school's only taildragger, a fully aerobatic Super Decathlon. Taildraggers are tricky to fly...well, not so much to fly, but to land, especially for novice pilots, and this one (being aerobatic) had no artificial horizon or DG which both help immensely in the required blind-flying practice. But I mastered it, and passed my check ride with flying colors using the old-school "needle, ball, and airspeed" technique for the instrument work. My instructor even gave me an introduction to aerobatics on the condition that I not practice any maneuvers solo until I had my ticket in hand; this promise I kept.

About this time (mid-1998) a young lady began taking flying lessons at the same flight school. She looked so much like the Jessica I remembered that I wanted to ask her, "Didn't I meet you in Orlando four years ago?" But she wore an engagement ring, and for the most part I kept my distance. We did converse a couple of times; on one occasion she said that she was taking lessons because, "I want to fly warbirds (she normally wore a "Lone Star Flight Museum" t-shirt)."

So, was she or wasn't she? If she wasn't, then all the best to her and I hope she has seat time in a P-38 and a P-51 by now. But, if she was...well, with my working theory about timelines and how they interact, it could be that at some point in the not-too-distant future I am going to meet her and put a ring on her finger. And that from that point she plans to jump back to 1998 and give me a surprise back then. One of the things I offered to do when we spoke was to take her and give her a tour of the old terminal building; then vacant but now the 1940 Air Terminal Museum. She never took me up on the offer, but perhaps in some alternate 1998 she will. I might very well ask her, "So, who put that ring on your finger?" She'll probably respond, "You did!" The consequences could be intriguing....
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Re: Compatibility vs. challenges in your relationships with the Divine
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2018, 11:13:19 pm »
Everyone has things they're good at and things they're bad at, to put it broadly. This applies as much to gods, spirits, and other Powers as it does to humans. How do yours align with those of your Powers, and what does that mean for your practice?

What ways are you compatible with your gods, and how does that shape your practice? For example, if you worship a god concerned with language and have always been good with words, you might write poetry or essays about your faith often.

What ways do your Powers challenge you, and how does that shape your practice? For example, if your gods prefer to use imagery to contact you, and you've always struggled with visualization--what do you do about that? How have you changed and improved as a result, and what do your Powers do to help?

It's taken me several days to come up with a reply to this( and even now will take up most of my evening. I don't know if other people spend 2-3 hours on every post, but I suspect not), partly because words have never come naturally to me and partly because I felt to explain adequately it would be necessary to reveal who my own pop-cultural Power is, or at least enough information to make that obvious, therefore I needed time to ask for and receive an adequately clear sign to do that.   I can't exactly say I've admired your boldness in being so open about the same information because it seemed dangerously foolhardy, but I could be said to envy that freedom from worry to some degree. 

So, compatibilities...While the fact that I was, when I started on this particular journey, in a health crisis caused entirely by taking very poor care of myself for some time, may make someone with a strong interest in physical fitness seem incongruous, that part actually makes perfect sense as obvious cause-and-effect, and in fact, while I've not really before gone about it in any very organized and dedicated fashion until now, I have always been prone to a certain sense of physical restlessness and an awareness that I do feel better when in motion most of the time, and when I was younger was often praised ( and occasionally mocked) for uninhibited dancing anywhere music was being played.  So that's actually a point where we mesh fairly well. 

  Also, I've always had an instinctive belief in the superiority of eclecticism over excessive purism and a preference for direct and straightforward action...which actually sounds a fair bit like Jeet Kune Do, which is relevant because this is Bruce Lee.

Where things get sticky, though, is that, well...this is a guy who studied *Philosophy*.  At a university. *On purpose*.   Although I do have some liking for Taoist classics (good thing he used a lot of that), in general, anything that gets labelled Philosophy is really, really Not My Thing.  For starters, I'm a very concrete, visuo-spatial thinker by nature, so abstractions are hard to make sense of.   Then, as I'm coming to realize, though I never thought of it that way before, I grew up dealing with a parent who saddled me with a ton of gaslighting and emotional manipulation and abuse under the guise of "logical debate", so a fair amount of this stuff is a straight-up C-PTSD trigger.

Also, a huge amount of my personal identity is being, quite simply, a very anxious, timid, multi-phobic personality.  I don't really know how else to think of myself.  You can probably imagine just how well THAT goes over here.   He is actually surprisingly patient and understanding of the utility of gradual desensitization, but the idea of simply allowing fear to be a permanent thing to work around instead of remove, is not something he is going to tolerate. At all. 

So I guess this post has been a somewhat lengthy way to say...we are getting a LOT of shadow-work done over here.

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Re: Compatibility vs. challenges in your relationships with the Divine
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2018, 12:05:19 am »
It's taken me several days to come up with a reply to this( and even now will take up most of my evening. I don't know if other people spend 2-3 hours on every post, but I suspect not), partly because words have never come naturally to me and partly because I felt to explain adequately it would be necessary to reveal who my own pop-cultural Power is, or at least enough information to make that obvious, therefore I needed time to ask for and receive an adequately clear sign to do that.   I can't exactly say I've admired your boldness in being so open about the same information because it seemed dangerously foolhardy, but I could be said to envy that freedom from worry to some degree.

I can't say I exactly admire my own boldness, but I suffocate in closets.

Anyway, to be honest, I got the most softball possible option when it comes to apotheosized human beings. He named himself after a god from the start. For that matter, it's not like pagans on Tumblr haven't been talking about venerating Bowie since he kicked the bucket to kick off 2016--rock stars kind of lend themselves to it. What they sell the world is themselves.

There is a particular congruence I have noticed from early in my worship: one of Jareth's famous lines in Labyrinth is an echo of a lyric from Queen's first hit, "Seven Seas of Rhye."

Compare:
  • "I ask for so little. Just fear me, love me, do as I say, and I will be your slave."
  • "Sister--I live and lie for you. Mister--do and I'll die. You are mine, I possess you, I belong to you forever."

Performers like Mercury and Bowie gain their power precisely by making their persona(s, in the latter case), public image, and ultimately life story the property of the world at large (an incredibly dangerous gambit, considering the things bitter, entitled fans have done). Actors are a little more liminal, given that their job is to inhabit other people's stories, not their own. But that doesn't stop a lot of them from ranging closer to the rock-star side of things with the force of their personality (for that matter, Bowie was arguably as much an actor as a musician himself--but he was a liminal guy himself for sure). Your guy is definitely one of those interesting cases in that he was more interested in putting forth his own stories and philosophies than most actors and as such the story of his life overshadows that of any role he ever took.

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So I guess this post has been a somewhat lengthy way to say...we are getting a LOT of shadow-work done over here.

I've had similar experiences with Mercury, which I will try to sum up into a post in this thread at some point.
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Re: Compatibility vs. challenges in your relationships with the Divine
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2018, 12:33:43 am »
I can't say I exactly admire my own boldness, but I suffocate in closets.

I hope I didn't offend, that may have come out as an insult, which wasn't intended.

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Re: Compatibility vs. challenges in your relationships with the Divine
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2018, 12:48:54 am »
I hope I didn't offend, that may have come out as an insult, which wasn't intended.

Nah, I get it. I've had some rough experiences in the past week with navigating the choppy waters between my own need for self-expression and other people's discomfort with what I express.

ETA: That was excessively cryptic. I'm saying that I may have come off a little sharply in my reply because I'm prickly about the subject at the moment, that's all.
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