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Author Topic: American Pantheon of Gods?  (Read 9545 times)

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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2012, 03:00:51 pm »
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What is Abraham Lincoln famous for? He's famous for being President during a large war, the Civil War, and freeing the slaves. I think when we look, we can find several deities who were famous for being prevalent during a war, who's to say they didn't live during that war and the stories have evolved over time for them to be Gods? Could Abraham Lincoln be destined for the same fate? Could he be part of an American pantheon of Gods at some point?

We already basically worship the founding fathers in America. Their names are invoked when people are speaking of the things in America that they fostered. Could they all eventually evolve into an American pantheon of Gods?


I like it.  Lincoln could be a god of Liberty-- or of Tyranny, if you're from the South, but hey... there's an interesting duality there.  
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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2012, 03:03:01 pm »
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Martha Stewart, perhaps...




Or more seriously, perhaps Dolly Madison. She's somewhat revered in that regard, I think.

Dolly Parton!  Or not...

What of our American folk tales, and the stories told by our home grown authors?
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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2012, 03:17:31 pm »
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I haven't read any of the ones mentioned here but another blogger must have been inspired by these because he wrote of something similar. God of War is clearly Uncle Sam according to him, and I'd agree.

I also think we turn celebrities imto archtypical objects of worship.



We must be reading the same guy. That's what the blog said that inspired all this thought on my part. Gonna have to agree partially, but see uncle Sam as the God of Capitalism more than War, but  suppose in our case, those are related.

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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2012, 03:18:26 pm »
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Dolly Parton!  Or not...

What of our American folk tales, and the stories told by our home grown authors?


Other than Johnny Appleseed, who has already been mentioned, the American folk tale figures who have stuck with me are Paul Bunyan (our very own jotun), John Henry (a vaguely Hephaestean character, I suppose... or maybe a kind of Weyland), Bre'er Rabbit (the trickster), the ghost of Sleepy Hollow and Rip Van Winkle (Methuselah as time traveler?).

I just don't feel a lot of real potential for veneration there.

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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2012, 03:22:34 pm »
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Dolly Parton!  Or not...

What of our American folk tales, and the stories told by our home grown authors?

 

As someone else mentioned, Johnny Appleseed, or perhaps Paul Bunyon? or for some people Pecos Bill?

This whole thing definitely makes me see pantheons in a different light, and maybe lends itself to making me study chaos magery a little more. :D:

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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2012, 03:28:51 pm »
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...or perhaps Paul Bunyon?

Not making fun of your spelling, but I can totally see bowing to the Sacred Toe.


(Edit: it's actually bunion, isn't it? heh. foolish, am I.)
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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2012, 03:39:42 pm »
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Not making fun of your spelling, but I can totally see bowing to the Sacred Toe.


(Edit: it's actually bunion, isn't it? heh. foolish, am I.)



HAHAHA All Hail the Sacred Toe! :D:


I've seen his name spelled both Bunyan and Bunyon.

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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2012, 03:46:35 pm »
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HAHAHA All Hail the Sacred Toe! :D:


I've seen his name spelled both Bunyan and Bunyon.



OMG, so I did a search for American Gods and found this. I have to read this book!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Gods

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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2012, 03:59:28 pm »
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As Stephy blogged, though, Columbia has some serious appropriation and white entitlement issues. Lady Liberty, not so much.

 
I would be down with Columbia as goddess of American conquest and imperialism.
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« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2012, 04:03:57 pm »
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I would go with Lady Liberty as well.

I seem to have misplaced my link to her blog, which is exceedingly annoying. It was a very good set of blog posts.

Mine? That would be http://stephyjh.wordpress.com, though I haven't posted in a while.
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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2012, 04:07:03 pm »
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Mine? That would be http://stephyjh.wordpress.com, though I haven't posted in a while.

I could swear there was more than one post. The issue was popping up all over my Google Reader, though, so maybe I'm just remembering wrong.

This is the post on manifest destiny and Columbia that I was referring to, at any rate.
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« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2012, 04:57:07 pm »
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I could swear there was more than one post. The issue was popping up all over my Google Reader, though, so maybe I'm just remembering wrong.

This is the post on manifest destiny and Columbia that I was referring to, at any rate.

I caught serious flak for that one, notably from Star Foster, who was really behind the whole Columbia idea and didn't much care to be debated on it. I think TC spoils me for interacting with pagandom at large.
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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2012, 05:07:21 pm »
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Mine? That would be http://stephyjh.wordpress.com, though I haven't posted in a while.


Awesome ty!

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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2012, 05:22:54 pm »
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I caught serious flak for that one, notably from Star Foster, who was really behind the whole Columbia idea and didn't much care to be debated on it. I think TC spoils me for interacting with pagandom at large.

 
Star is good friends with Cara Schulz, who I believe was a significant advocate of this effort... so I think Star probably felt a bit propietary of the idea.

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Re: American Pantheon of Gods?
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2012, 05:39:38 pm »
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Other than Johnny Appleseed, who has already been mentioned, the American folk tale figures who have stuck with me are Paul Bunyan (our very own jotun), John Henry (a vaguely Hephaestean character, I suppose... or maybe a kind of Weyland), Bre'er Rabbit (the trickster), the ghost of Sleepy Hollow and Rip Van Winkle (Methuselah as time traveler?).

I just don't feel a lot of real potential for veneration there.


Not as Big Pantheon guys, definitely.   These might be more like lesser, local or regional divinities.  Akin to faeries, satyrs, sprites... but different as well.  I believe it was in ancient Japan that there were a bunch of little gods, tied to features of the land.  Hence a god of a remote woods spring was god of that spring only-- or a grove, or a pond.  Bunyan et al might be like that: tied to a given region or land, and at the same time being coloured by the folksy character of the people there.

And speaking of local/regional divinities, there are a whole bunch of Native tribal deities out there...
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