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KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« on: May 18, 2012, 04:04:56 pm »
My dad forwarded this to me, and I thought it might interest a few Cauldronites:

Tropes vs. Women in Video Games
A Webseries project in San Francisco, CA by Anita Sarkeesian
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I really love playing fun and innovative video games but I’m regularly disappointed in the limited ways women are represented.  This video project will explore, analyze and deconstruct some of the most common tropes and stereotypes of women in games.  This series will focus on reoccurring patterns within the gaming industry rather than singling out just the worst offenders.  I’m going to need your help to make it happen!

As a gamer, a pop culture critic and a fan, I’m always working to balance my enjoyment of media while simultaneously being critical of problematic gender representations. With my video web series Feminist Frequency,  I look at the way women are portrayed in mass media and the impact they have on our culture and society.

Link: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games
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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2012, 06:29:59 pm »
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My dad forwarded this to me, and I thought it might interest a few Cauldronites:

Tropes vs. Women in Video Games
A Webseries project in San Francisco, CA by Anita Sarkeesian


Link: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games


Thanks for posting this! It sounds like it's right up my alley!

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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2012, 07:00:40 pm »
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Thanks for posting this! It sounds like it's right up my alley!


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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2012, 06:36:22 am »
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Thanks for posting this! It sounds like it's right up my alley!

 
And not far off from mine.

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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2012, 07:09:47 pm »
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The creator of this KickStarter is facing some backlash:

Hey, Let’s Make a Video Game So We Can Beat Up a Female Critic of Video Games!

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Anita Sarkeesian didn't set out to piss off an army of male gamers when she launched a Kickstarter to raise money for a project that aimed to examine cliched, oversexualized tropes of women in video games. But apparently, daring to say anything bad about video gamers being sexist is enough to amass an entire army of jerks against you, jerks who are determined to video game beat you into submission. And now, one or more of those jerks has taken the time and effort to create a video game that allows players to beat up Anita Sarkeesian. That'll show ladies who think some video game tropes are sexist!


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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2012, 07:44:27 pm »
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The creator of this KickStarter is facing some backlash.


"Some backlash" is a huge understatement!
If you have a VERY, VERY strong stomach, I recommend giving this media round up a look: http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/kickstarter-project-funded-with-6967-backers/

The kind of crap she's been getting for even proposing this project is just sickening.

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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2012, 08:09:52 pm »
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"Some backlash" is a huge understatement!
If you have a VERY, VERY strong stomach, I recommend giving this media round up a look: http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/kickstarter-project-funded-with-6967-backers/

The kind of crap she's been getting for even proposing this project is just sickening.

 
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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2012, 11:10:38 pm »
Quote from: Juni;55315
My dad forwarded this to me, and I thought it might interest a few Cauldronites:

Tropes vs. Women in Video Games
A Webseries project in San Francisco, CA by Anita Sarkeesian


Link: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games

 
Interesting.  

Seems that feminists are willing to put their money where the mouth is.  This is a good thing rather than creating a political stir over govt funding of such a study, or a stir over many soft science studies that seem to have limited practical payback or use.

Although I'd be curious if there is data on sales to women of games. Has anybody written a game that breaks the tropes and have women bought it?  Do women make up a significant amount of the gaming market? and if not, is it just that games are using sexist tropes or is it the genre of games? (ie few women play shooting games but instead focus on Sims or such?)

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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2017, 11:52:28 pm »
My dad forwarded this to me, and I thought it might interest a few Cauldronites:

Tropes vs. Women in Video Games
A Webseries project in San Francisco, CA by Anita Sarkeesian


Link: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games

I'm gonna go in and say some words.

As a woman AND a female gamer myself, Feminist Frequency is a scam. She isn't even an actual gamer and in many of her videos, she is purposefully neglecting ALL the gaming lore AND maliciously lying. Anyone who calls her out on it, including women and POC, get banned, blocked or shut down. Recently at a Vidcon in US, she attacked an audience member purely unprofessionally.

Regardless if you know the audience member, or you know you disagree with them on issues gives NO PROFESSIONAL PANELIST a right to become aggressive & abusive.

If you want positive female representation, I recommend Geek & Sundry. Not only do they produce awesome content, its run by actual, genuine humans and your money actually goes towards actual products and services. Not to mention, Marisha Ray & Matthew Mercer and Co spend great amounts of their time actively engaging their audiences, admiring the fan art and traveling to ensure fans can meet them at conventions. They are also unafraid of talking on podcasts, livestreams and they, in general, are wonderfully talented people who also have a sincere sense of humor, who understand video games and Dungeons & Dragons etc.

Support real people, real content. Not someone who makes money off of victimization, who abuses her audiences and misrepresents a great deal of female gamers.

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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2017, 11:56:24 pm »
I'm gonna go in and say some words.

This thread has not been updated since 2012, and the person to whom you are replying has not been here at all since 2015.
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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2017, 03:10:59 am »
Recently at a Vidcon in US, she attacked an audience member purely unprofessionally.

Regardless if you know the audience member, or you know you disagree with them on issues gives NO PROFESSIONAL PANELIST a right to become aggressive & abusive.

For more context on this, here is VidCon's post-conference debrief statement, the second section of which covers the incident referred to above.

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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2017, 11:56:31 am »
This thread has not been updated since 2012, and the person to whom you are replying has not been here at all since 2015.

And that's significant because?

Unless a thread has been officially locked or there was aggressive amounts of immaturity displayed regarding a thread's topic to the point in which the topic has become one of which that cannot be mentioned again (as we see on Facebook where group admins prefer members not to remake similar posts after admins have given verdict that the topic is too heated for the group), replying to an otherwise old thread is harmless and insignificant regardless if the thread creator is or is not active. In fact, this gives OTHER newer users, such as myself, the ability to find older posts BEFORE spamming the forums with the same thread/topic when there was already one that existed. Conversation can still be held with or without the original poster.

If users replying to older threads is a concern to the moderation team, might I suggest setting in place the ability that if a thread has been inactive for a selected amount of days/months/years, the moderators than have the ability to lock it until such time as 1) the original poster actually returns and wants to invest in their thread or 2) the topic at hand become relevant again and threads need to become merged to prevent clutter piling up?

BUT! Back on topic. Firstly, to address Sunflower:

Please see actual attendees footage (will be linked below) because as seen with the Calgary Expo vs Honey Badger Brigade in Canada (still an ongoing court case), its quite easy for publications and media to portray facts in different perspectives so, I will actually be leaving the actual FOOTAGE for those interested in seeing and I will also include Anita (FemFreq) attacking YouTuber Boogie, too.

What Happened at Vidcon (From the perspective of the actual Victim):

Credible & Certified YouTuber, Journalist/Reviewer speaks about Vidcon choosing to back the abuser (Anita):
Actual Footage & Interview at the actual event:
Raw Footage captured by my Friend, Naomi who actually attended the event:

Anita/FemFreq BROKE Vidcon's terms & services, she explicitly used her position on the professional panel to publicly attack an audience member, defaming them and labeling them 'Garbage Human' than wasted Vidcon's security resources by calling in a false alarm.

Any sane person, any sane person, would never throw money at someone who does this. It does not matter who they are or what they believe. In the moment of the event, the audience in attendance followed the Vidcon terms & conditions and were quite respectful as an audience. At that time, at that event, Anita was in the wrong and its quite disgraceful seeing someone who says they speak and represent women like myself treat audiences like that? No way.


Secondly, I will reaffirm my previous statement. Support Geek & Sundry. To anyone reading this and is new to this thread, or even old, I suggest Geek & Sundry. Top quality, proper gaming & geek content with merchandise to boot! :)

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Re: KickStarter for Tropes vs Women in Video Games
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2017, 12:44:17 pm »
And that's significant because?

Because a thread that has not been posted to since 2012 is unlike to have information about something that took place in 2017. (And so it seems rather unfair to blame the original posters for not being precognitive and including things that had not yet happened.)

Adding information to a thread is welcome, though there are times when starting a new thread may be a better choice than reviving an old one.

When reviving an older thread, we do encourage taking a look at the posting dates and the last logins for significant posters in the thead: someone who hasn't been here in years is unlikely to respond to a direct question, so it can make sense to frame the response differently than for a thread where the posts were a while ago, but you're responding to someone who is recently active on the forum.

For people who'd like some more guidance about reviving threads, Sunflower did a great summary a little while ago. As you can see if you read that (and review our rules), we don't lock threads for inactivity, but we do encourage people to take a moment to think about where and how they're posting.

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