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Vegetarian, Vegan etc
« on: July 20, 2011, 08:55:33 am »
Are you a veggie? Anyone in your family a veggie? Are there any problems at meal times if not everyone in your family are veggie?

Both me and my other half are meat eaters but my mums a veggie so when she comes to stay my other half gets all huffy because of the lack of meat (it doesnt bother me, I'm happy without meat for a week or so when she's here) but I always have a bit of a panic when she comes - what on earth do I feed her?? Thankfully I have a load of veggie recipes already in my recipe book but it does make me feel a bit out of sorts lol!

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Re: Vegetarian, Vegan etc
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 09:09:59 am »
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Are you a veggie? Anyone in your family a veggie? Are there any problems at meal times if not everyone in your family are veggie?

 
My boyfriend & I are vegan so there's no trouble there.  I've even converted my dad to veganism so when my family gets together for dinner there's just as many vegans as there are omnivores.

I've found the best solution is to bring over something vegan that *everyone* will enjoy instead of forcing my mother to cook something vegan.  It's a great way to show people that our food can be just as tasty as theirs!

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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 09:15:20 am »
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It's a great way to show people that our food can be just as tasty as theirs!


That was the challenge I had when cooking veggie meals for mum - convincing my other half that you dont need meat to make a good meal! A red pepper risotto with camembert convinced him :D

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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 10:45:46 am »
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Are you a veggie? Anyone in your family a veggie? Are there any problems at meal times if not everyone in your family are veggie?

Both me and my other half are meat eaters but my mums a veggie so when she comes to stay my other half gets all huffy because of the lack of meat (it doesnt bother me, I'm happy without meat for a week or so when she's here) but I always have a bit of a panic when she comes - what on earth do I feed her?? Thankfully I have a load of veggie recipes already in my recipe book but it does make me feel a bit out of sorts lol!

 
I went through a phase of being vegetarian, and then vegan. It was an attempt to try and narrow down my diet- to see what was causing health issues. Suddenly, my parents thought I was unhealthy, that I looked sickly. That I was making it worse because I was no longer eating meat.

Really stupid stuff.

It created issues for me when I went out to eat. I found it hard to try and find something that was safe for me to eat. I felt like I couldn't really enjoy eating out. Since then, I've moved more into a paleo-styled diet. Even that can be a challenge to eat with- but not nearly as difficult as when I was vege/vegan.

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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 11:13:16 am »
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Are you a veggie? Anyone in your family a veggie? Are there any problems at meal times if not everyone in your family are veggie?

Both me and my other half are meat eaters but my mums a veggie so when she comes to stay my other half gets all huffy because of the lack of meat (it doesnt bother me, I'm happy without meat for a week or so when she's here) but I always have a bit of a panic when she comes - what on earth do I feed her?? Thankfully I have a load of veggie recipes already in my recipe book but it does make me feel a bit out of sorts lol!


I was vegetarian for two years in high school during a hippie dippie phase. I like vegetarian food, and I strongly believe in environmental benefits of vegetarianism and the ethical treatment of animals, but I craved red meat so strongly during that time that I decided that eating meat every once in a while is okay.

I also tried veganism this year for about two months, mostly because I have newly vegan friends and I wanted to see what the fuss was about. I think my friends saw Avatar and decided to become environmentalists. You know how the gays are, they're into whatever's trendy ;). Anyway, I read a lot of books and tried to eat a balanced diet, but I was still tired and hungry all the time, so I figured it wasn't worth it.

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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2011, 11:53:40 am »
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Are you a veggie? Anyone in your family a veggie? Are there any problems at meal times if not everyone in your family are veggie?


I'm attempting to go pescetarian, which is vegetarian + dairy/eggs + seafood. I say attempting because I still live with my parents and my mother just... doesn't get it. I've told her repeatedly that I'm not eating red meat or chicken anymore, and then a week later she lets me know we're having steak for dinner. *headdesks* So I'm trying to learn to cook and buy my own groceries and such so I can better control what I'm eating.
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Re: Vegetarian, Vegan etc
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2011, 11:55:48 am »
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I think my friends saw Avatar and decided to become environmentalists. You know how the gays are, they're into whatever's trendy ;).

Err, that's a really weird generalization, isn't it? I don't think a higher percentage of gays I know are "into whatever's trendy" than the non-gays I know.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2011, 12:05:25 pm »
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Are you a veggie? Anyone in your family a veggie? Are there any problems at meal times if not everyone in your family are veggie?
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Pescetarian here, and the only problems I have stem from restaurants thinking chicken broth needs to be in everything.
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2011, 12:12:08 pm »
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Pescetarian here, and the only problems I have stem from restaurants thinking chicken broth needs to be in everything.

 
I'm just curious- why be pescetarian? Why not just go full vegetarian? I don't see what makes fish an exception? Not trying to be mean, I'm genuinely trying to understand :)

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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2011, 12:20:57 pm »
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I'm just curious- why be pescetarian? Why not just go full vegetarian? I don't see what makes fish an exception? Not trying to be mean, I'm genuinely trying to understand :)

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I don't think it is mean to ask. :)

I became pescetarian sort of by default.  I stopped eating red meat and pork when I was working in Environmental Education due to farming practices and was on my way to making a decision about poultry when I got salmonella poisoning.  Twice.  In a row.  From restaurant-cooked chicken.  That pretty much helped me decide to weed it out.  

I remain pescetarian for a few reasons.  First, and foremost, I do it out of habit.  Secondly, I know that I would have no qualms procuring my own fish/mollusks/crustaceans from the wild for food...if need be.  I cannot say the same for mammals, reptiles, amphibians, and birds...and there's a part of my mind that tells me I should only eat the foods that I would be able to comfortably catch/kill myself.

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Re: Vegetarian, Vegan etc
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2011, 02:01:40 pm »
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Are you a veggie? Anyone in your family a veggie? Are there any problems at meal times if not everyone in your family are veggie?


I'm not vegetarian, although I was almost for a while. Then my cousin made carnitas, and they're the best carnitas ever so that went out the window. I don't eat beef though. I can't even remember why I stopped eating it in the first place, but the last time I tried some, it was really gross. When I'm with my family, we have some problems. I don't know why, but after four years, they can't get that I don't eat beef. So they always suggest hot dogs and hamburgers and other beef-things for lunch or dinner.

I really don't understand. My brother was a vegetarian for a year, and they had no problem adapting to that. But apparently, no beef is harder? Still, it's better than when I was on a strict diet where there were very few things I could eat. They would conveniently forget and go out to eat and I'd just be stuck drinking water... at least now I can usually find something I can eat at most places, even if it's just french fries.

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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2011, 02:42:48 pm »
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I remain pescetarian for a few reasons.  First, and foremost, I do it out of habit.  Secondly, I know that I would have no qualms procuring my own fish/mollusks/crustaceans from the wild for food...if need be.  I cannot say the same for mammals, reptiles, amphibians, and birds...and there's a part of my mind that tells me I should only eat the foods that I would be able to comfortably catch/kill myself.

I don't judge others for their eating habits; to each one's own.


Yeah, that makes sense. Makes more sense than the answer I normally hear, which relates to fish being 'lesser' than cows, chickens and pigs somehow. So I've always been curious to see if there is a 'better' answer out there XD I have to agree, I'd really only feel comfortable killing/procuring fish over other larger animals. I'd make a horrible cave man. I'd probably cry before every meal.

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Re: Vegetarian, Vegan etc
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2011, 03:51:54 pm »
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I remain pescetarian for a few reasons.  First, and foremost, I do it out of habit.  Secondly, I know that I would have no qualms procuring my own fish/mollusks/crustaceans from the wild for food...if need be.  I cannot say the same for mammals, reptiles, amphibians, and birds...and there's a part of my mind that tells me I should only eat the foods that I would be able to comfortably catch/kill myself.

I don't judge others for their eating habits; to each one's own.


*nod nod*

I'm pescatarian too. I decided to stop eating red meat and poultry as an experiment. It was never really about animal rights, or even health, though later, as I realized how good I felt, my health probably played a role in my decision. I didn't give up fish then, because... I like the taste of fish, crab, and lobster, and I still do. :p  

I told myself that if I missed meat, I'd go back. That was back in sophomore year of high school, and honestly? Haven't missed it, on the whole. The things I missed in the beginning were texture (like a BLT) and substance (like a turkey sandwich), and when I found substitutes for them, they completely satisfied those particular wants. On the whole, the only real problems (and they are small ones) have been a somewhat more limited going-out menu, and the chicken broth/stock issue. :rolleye::


However, I will say that as the years have gone on, and I've done more reading and thinking about my particular... view of life, my reasons for remaining pescatarian have changed somewhat. I still don't miss it, and I still don't want it, but I think that even if I did, I would find it difficult to justify, based on most current farming practices, most current slaughter methods, and most current corporate operation/economic practices surrounding food.

This is one reason why I've been contemplating eliminating fish from my diet too, because if beef and poultry farms have questionable practices, fish farms definitely have even more.

Currently, when I eat fish, crab, or lobster, I take care to align my eating it with my world view. This means sustainable practices, local (when it's available), seasonal (very important for salmon), and wild. Which means expensive. :-/  So fish is a pretty big treat at home, and since I rarely go out anyway, a treat when I go out.

This works fairly well. There's plenty of room for improvement (when it comes to going out, or buying crab and lobster, things get very difficult to source, which I really don't like).

If I ever went back to eating meat, it would also have to fit into my world view. That means it would have to be locally grown, humanely cared for, grass-fed, all-natural, yadda yadda yadda, and... also expensive.

But if I can't afford to support farming practices that support my view of life, then I can't afford to eat meat. ::shrug::


Anyway, I hope I'm not speechifying or anything. I really don't care what other people do. I just care about why I do what I do. :o
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This.

For basically all of my life, I haven't thought about where my food came from; I think a lot of that is because my mother actively avoids thinking about where her food comes from, and has barred such discussion in her presence. So it never really came up, for me.

From time to time, though, it would wiggle its way to my consciousness, and between Finn's reasons and another vegetarian friend's info, I realized that my eating habits and my worldview were not in alignment. And that bothered me a lot, so I'm taking steps to fix it.
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2011, 04:46:36 pm »
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However, I will say that as the years have gone on, and I've done more reading and thinking about my particular... view of life, my reasons for remaining pescatarian have changed somewhat. I still don't miss it, and I still don't want it, but I think that even if I did, I would find it difficult to justify, based on most current farming practices, most current slaughter methods, and most current corporate operation/economic practices surrounding food.

 
*nod*

When I was 11, I decided to become vegetarian.  That was 36 years ago.  Vegetarianism was quite unusual, at least in my world, and that was a large part of why I did it.  I also did it because I was just being contrary.  My mother's response was something like "If you don't want to eat what I cooked, cook something else yourself."  Which is how I learned to cook.  ;)

Over the years, I've realized that, even if I wasn't already a vegetarian, I would become one anyway, for a variety of reasons -- farming and slaughtering practices being a huge one.

At first, it was very difficult to find anything on a restaurant menu.  I had a lot of salads and baked potatoes.  :p  In the last 15 - 20 years or so, that has changed.  At this point, there's pretty much always at least one vegetarian option at any restaurant.  (But the chicken broth thing can be an issue sometimes.)

Nobody else in my household is a vegetarian.  My older daughter was for a few years, but she's decided she likes sushi too much.  She still doesn't eat much in the way of meat, but she no longer calls herself a vegetarian.  

But even with no other vegetarians in the house, my family still eats very little meat.  A large part of that is the fact that I do about 75% of the cooking, and I don't cook meat.  (I'm following my mom's example:  If you don't like what I cook, cook something yourself!)  And anyone else cooking for the family just defaults to vegetarian out of habit.  So most of our meals have no meat, although we do use dairy and eggs.  

I know, I know, there are also HUGE problems with dairy and poultry farming practices, too.  But I haven't been successful at getting enough protein on a diet that excludes dairy and eggs.  And my migraines get worse if I don't have enough protein in my diet.  Sigh.  It's something I'm always working on, but, at this point, I think it's just something I have to accept.
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