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KOS: 2. FlameKeeping as Foundation
« on: February 05, 2013, 11:20:22 pm »
I'm starting this one now as there is more to discuss.

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Prompt: How do you define “philosophy” for yourself? What about “religion”? How do they work together, in your mindset?

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Re: Shad's book: second essay
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 08:12:05 pm »
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Prompt: How do you define “philosophy” for yourself? What about “religion”? How do they work together, in your mindset?


Philosophy is the study and contemplation of how we know, what we know, and how we use what we know about life, the universe and everything not necessarily in that order nor specifically tied to any set topic save what is set out as premise.

Religion is worship of the divine.

I think they work together like this: philosophy + divine + practice + rules = religion.

While I think religions can function to help people and do great things for societies, I haven’t found any that work for me personally.  So I shorten the equation to: philosophy + practice + divine = spirituality.  And that fits for me at the moment.

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Re: Shad's book: second essay
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 08:41:55 pm »
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I'm starting this one now as there is more to discuss.

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Prompt: How do you define “philosophy” for yourself? What about “religion”? How do they work together, in your mindset?

 
I would say that if religion fills the questions of "what" , philosophy fills the question of "how?" and the "why?"

For example, and bear in mind my knowledge of Catholicism is hella rusty since I haven't practiced in years, while Christianity offers plenty of "whats" and "whys" it's very shallow when it comes to "how" and I tend to think this is because it lacks a solid "philosophy" to explain how one goes about bringing about the correct mindset, thought patterns, and behaviors necessary to become a good Christian.

Sure many will say "faith in Christ" and "Follow the commandments." but how do you quell temptation once it's entered your mind and, further more, how do you abstain from experiencing something similar in the future? How do you focus on the divine grace of G-d?

I do believe some have tried to remedy this; see Thomas Aquinas, etc.

But overall "philosophy" for me, forms the foundation of how the rules can be followed with certainty while "religion" simply offers the rules and the back story.

As a Hellenist, I am well aware of the need to follow the Delphic Maxims to the best of my ability, BUT, it's through philosophers that I obtain some idea of how I can condition myself to become a better Hellenist. So Epictetus, Pythagoras, and Marcus Aurelius fill a void for me that I don't, personally, get from reading historical accounts or the myths.
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Re: Shad's book: second essay
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 10:34:35 pm »
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FlameKeeping as Foundation.

Prompt: How do you define “philosophy” for yourself? What about “religion”? How do they work together, in your mindset?

 
Philosophy, to me, is the contemplation of how things work, and why they do. Be it the world or how our minds work the way they do. It's also about our personal beliefs and outlook on life. Beyond that, I'm not all that familiar with it.

Spirituality might be part of this? I consider it to be about ones own personal connection to the Divine. Our own personal beliefs that we hold and grow within ourselves. Our Dark Flame.

Religion I tend to associate with belief in Deity. I consider it to involve a number of people with some form of leadership. Also a specific way in which to worship Deity.

I think once we have figured out what we believe, we can then search for a group of people who believe similar things to us. Then we can connect with them, share experiences, and learn from each other. This is Bright Flame.

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Re: Shad's book: second essay
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2013, 01:27:53 pm »
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I'm starting this one now as there is more to discuss.

FlameKeeping as Foundation.

Prompt: How do you define “philosophy” for yourself? What about “religion”? How do they work together, in your mindset?

 
Philosophy is my thoughts about the truths of the Universe. These thoughts include the divinity of All-That-Is and the interconnectedness of all its parts. This interconnection means that an action in one part of "the web" will affect other parts.

Religion is the actions we carry out as as way to practice our spirituality.

Philosophy dictates the Universe is a bunch of connected parts. Spirituality claims that a positive action in one part will positively affect the whole. Religion is getting off the couch and taking that positive action.

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