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fiction or memory
« on: November 19, 2011, 09:21:06 pm »
It's really bad when you can't be sure if a family story you heard a number of years ago real, or if you are remembering something from a novel.

I'm working on family history and trying to remember what my grandmother said when my grandfather died. Not sure if what I remember is from her or if I'm remembering a scene from Heinlein's Time Enough for Love.

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Re: fiction or memory
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2011, 09:36:58 pm »
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It's really bad when you can't be sure if a family story you heard a number of years ago real, or if you are remembering something from a novel.

I'm working on family history and trying to remember what my grandmother said when my grandfather died. Not sure if what I remember is from her or if I'm remembering a scene from Heinlein's Time Enough for Love.


As the family genealogist I run into that aspect a lot.  Some due to trying to recall my own memories from youth, others from speaking to family and them trying to recall it.  Then the older they are it seem's the more romantized many of the stories are, especially when it pertains to having "Indian" bloodlines.

I hope you don't run into the situation I have where every one has a nickname that is used vice their birth name.

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Re: fiction or memory
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2011, 10:20:18 pm »
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It's really bad when you can't be sure if a family story you heard a number of years ago real, or if you are remembering something from a novel.

I'm working on family history and trying to remember what my grandmother said when my grandfather died. Not sure if what I remember is from her or if I'm remembering a scene from Heinlein's Time Enough for Love.

 
I've gotten reality confused with parts of dreams before. It's really embarrassing...

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Re: fiction or memory
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 12:16:27 am »
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I hope you don't run into the situation I have where every one has a nickname that is used vice their birth name.

 
My problem is spelling of last names, and occasionally first names.  Golden, Goldin; Gold, Goldbaum; worst is Israel and Jacob being interchanged as a first name.

I'm still working on US records, but I despair of looking at Yiddish, Russian, Polish and Litvak records.

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Re: fiction or memory
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2011, 12:27:02 am »
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My problem is spelling of last names, and occasionally first names.  Golden, Goldin; Gold, Goldbaum; worst is Israel and Jacob being interchanged as a first name.

I'm still working on US records, but I despair of looking at Yiddish, Russian, Polish and Litvak records.


I can relate to that, especially when you get to enucation of the names.  It's like my family name was Breeding in colonial times, yet the "ing" was pronounced as "en" or "an" so you had many alternate spellings.  So I have to look for Breeden, Breden, Bredon, Breedon, Breaden, Breadon, Bredin, Braden, Brading, Breeding, Bruden, Bruding, etc, basically anything that has a code of 672 or 632 don't recall exactly which one at the moment,.

My biggest problem falls into  things like "Beverly" which seems to be a woman's name but actually in mine it's a males name.  Then you have multiple uses of the same name such as John for instance.  The first is John sr and his son John Jr.  However, Jr becomes Sr when the original Sr dies and a new John Jr comes into existence.  So you might have three or four John Sr's and Jr's at the same time using both Sr and Jr at once.
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Re: fiction or memory
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2011, 04:57:28 am »
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It's really bad when you can't be sure if a family story you heard a number of years ago real, or if you are remembering something from a novel.

I'm working on family history and trying to remember what my grandmother said when my grandfather died. Not sure if what I remember is from her or if I'm remembering a scene from Heinlein's Time Enough for Love.

 
If you post what it is you're remembering, I might be able to apply my Heinlein-fan brain to it.  No promises, since my copy of TEfL went walkabout quite a long time back, but I can give it a shot.

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Re: fiction or memory
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2011, 08:31:07 pm »
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If you post what it is you're remembering, I might be able to apply my Heinlein-fan brain to it.  No promises, since my copy of TEfL went walkabout quite a long time back, but I can give it a shot.

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My grandfather died from a massive stroke or such brain trauma, similar to TeFL  The question is whether he said something like "it hurts" or just dropped to the floor.  The main character says something after he dies to the woman whose body he was given & to his friend.

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Re: fiction or memory
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 01:00:43 pm »
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It's really bad when you can't be sure if a family story you heard a number of years ago real, or if you are remembering something from a novel.

I'm working on family history and trying to remember what my grandmother said when my grandfather died. Not sure if what I remember is from her or if I'm remembering a scene from Heinlein's Time Enough for Love.

 
I've decided not to worry too much about this kind of thing myself.  I'm told all memory is fiction anyway.

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Re: fiction or memory
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 08:51:03 pm »
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My grandfather died from a massive stroke or such brain trauma, similar to TeFL  The question is whether he said something like "it hurts" or just dropped to the floor.  The main character says something after he dies to the woman whose body he was given & to his friend.

 
Ah, then I'm no help for your main question.

I can nitpick for you, though - that's not TeFL, that's I Will Fear No Evil.

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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2011, 01:27:19 pm »
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Ah, then I'm no help for your main question.

I can nitpick for you, though - that's not TeFL, that's I Will Fear No Evil.

Sunflower

 
Thanks. So many books, so many authors. At least I got the author right.

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