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Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2019, 12:20:23 pm »
Oh yes video games can be good escapism indeed and I too like a good RPG - I've heard of strategy games, but not Grand Strategy Games; is there a difference?

There are different types of strategy games; TBS = Turn Based Strategy, think old-school stuff like Risk or even Chess; RTS = Real Time Strategy, all players play at the same time in real time, stuff like StarCraft, Age of Empires, Rise of Nations, etc. fall under that category.

GSG, or "Grand Strategy Games," are typically realtime games, but the difference is the scale, hence 'Grand' in the description. Most RTS games take place on a small map, with a handful of players and/or AI opponents, and might last between a few minutes to a few hours depending on the game in question and the skill of the players.

'Grand' Strategy Games, by comparison, are much slower and much larger; space-operas where you conquer an entire galaxy of several thousands stars, filled with dozens of human or AI opponents, or historical simulations with dozens of rulers and hundreds of playable vassals would fall under the umbrella of GSG's, for example. Most "4X" games are classified as GSG's.

A typical GSG run might involve dozens or even hundreds of hours of playtime, not unlike some RPGs. Most people don't actually play to 'win' in these games, they play to tell a story, the story of a particular empire, nation, etc. For example, "Crusader Kings" is a popular historical GSG where you play as a particular dynasty from medieval Eurasia, and try to keep your dynasty, culture, and religion alive for seven centuries, through various historical events including the titular crusades.

GSG's tend to have large role-playing communities and be less competition driven than other types of strategy games.
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Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2019, 07:05:43 pm »


That makes sense, reminds me of the first M in MMORPG.  In terms of games, I prefer hidden object games when I'm not feeling too great (wasn't ever any good at strategy ones).

Going back to reading material, I recalled that I'll do quite a bit of reading & attempted research online - I'm still trying to find the magic bullet that will "fix" my chronic health issues, but although there's not much chance of that (as you can imagine!) it does at least make me feel better to know that I'm not the only one.
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Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2019, 07:03:55 am »
So my question is, what works of literature do you find are spiritually nourishing for you?

If I'm in actual crisis, I just mainline cat videos. There's no way I can concentrate on reading when my world is crashing down. 'Induce laughter at all costs' is what the triage team ordered.

If I'm in a low-key, long-term funk, I reach for old RPG material. Mage:the Ascension 2nd ed. corebook (sometimes followed by Revised, sometimes not) and Traditions Gathered 2. They were my first contact material, and still evoke those better times so strongly that they help reboot my mind.

And of course, there's always Star Wars/Rogue One fanfiction, especially of the 'angst with a happy ending' variety.

(As an aside, I find Thomas Moore's Dark Nights of the Soul a lot more useful than the Chicken Soup books, but that's me.)
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Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2019, 10:16:31 pm »
So my question is, what works of literature do you find are spiritually nourishing for you?

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Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2019, 04:55:16 am »
I'm sure everyone in North America is familiar with the "Chicken Soup for the Soul" books - those collections of generically nice anecdotes that IMO are more like spiritual ramen flavor-packets than actual soup. So my question is, what works of literature do you find are spiritually nourishing for you?


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Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2019, 06:55:07 pm »
    [li$i]Anything by Agatha Christie, but esp the Poirot books.[/li][/list]

    Ah, yes. I generally read scifi/fantasy, but sometimes, a good classic murder mystery really hits the spot.

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    Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
    « Reply #36 on: February 27, 2019, 07:39:21 pm »

    I tend to read whatever I can get my hands on but when I'm feeling especially down/overwhelmed/anxious I tend to reach for:

    - the Fitz & Fool books by Robin Hobb (respectively: The Farseer Trilogy, The Tawny Man Trilogy, and The Fitz and the Fool Trilogy.) These can be a bit "slow moving" at times but they really let you just sink in and luxuriate in the characters and their lives. Plus, the Fool has held the dubious honor of "Most Favorite Literary Character" against all comers since I finished Assassin's Apprentice for the first time in 2004.
    - The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings.
    - Both the Anita Blake and the Merry Gentry books by Laurell K Hamilton
    - any of the Kushiel's Legacy books by Jacqueline Carey
    - American Gods and The Ocean at the End of the Lane by Neil Gaiman
    - The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas
    - Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
    - Macbeth, King Lear, As You Like It, Much Ado About Nothing, The Taming of the Shrew by William Shakespeare
    - The Belgariad and the Mallorean by David Eddings
    - The Troy Game series by Sara Douglass
    - any books by Juliet Marillier
    - The Blue Sword by Robin McKinley
    - assorted trashy romance novels selected at random by whatever is available at my library's online service
    - fanfiction across a variety of fandoms. Between fanfic and trashy romance novels I usually have a half dozen tabs open on my computer/tablet at any given time. It's my "in passing while I'm doing chores" and "the baby fell asleep in my lap again" reading.
    - assorted sewing, soaping, and pagan blogs

    The Belgariad and the Mallorean by David Eddings for me for fiction.  The two series the characters have a dark sense of humor, and Silk is my favorite character, the funniest of the bunch, they crack me up of laughter.  Care of the Soul by Thomas Moore I also like, though I'm unaware he has a book called Dark Night of the Soul, I should check it out.  And I also like to play videogames and MMORPGs to cheer myself up as well.

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    Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
    « Reply #37 on: February 28, 2019, 08:36:29 pm »
    So my question is, what works of literature do you find are spiritually nourishing for you?

    The Kindly Ones - Neil Gaiman. Very esoteric journey and leaves you with a lot of introspection and questioning.
    Complete fiction of H.P. Lovecraft. Because as a Kaos mage I did worked with chthonians many years ago and... got tangible material results, confirmed by a witness none the least. So Lovecraftian novels have a way to put me in the mood before Kaos meditation.
    Mirror of the Soul - for Aleister Crowley's Thoth tarot. Meditating with the arcanas and questions can balance someone and push to depths we often willingly close our eyes on.
    Stephen Hawking (pretty much anything he wrote) cosmology puts me in the right mindset to doubt everything and believe anything possible at the same time, love that feeling.
    Les Fleurs du Mal - Beaudelaire. French poetry exploring the darker side of humanity and beauty in ugliness.
    Poésies Complètes - Emile Nelligan. French-Canadian lyric poet. His poems deeply touch me, nostalgia and depression can be very hard but it's a little death with it's own beauty when you can turn the pain and feelings into verses. When I feel horrible I dive as deep as needed to fully live it and shed many tears and wails then I feel like my inner specter is sated and I can be reborn once more :) Some watch something comic to uplift them it's only a bandaid for me, deep healing means deep suffering for me or it always comes back too quickly.

    For game Hellblade:Senua's Sacrifice is freakin awesome and I loved pretty much all Silent Hills too. Games are my get away from reality when I get bored from it. I love mmorpg's, been playing since Everquest in 1999 but the last few years I've been pushing away slowly from them, always something not satisfying since story based roleplaying has died to only tavern talk and flirting.

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    Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
    « Reply #38 on: March 01, 2019, 03:16:59 am »
    but the last few years I've been pushing away slowly from them, always something not satisfying since story based roleplaying has died to only tavern talk and flirting.

    I've noticed that WoW has that problem as well; nobody RPs anymore, even on RP servers, and the few folks who do tend to do it out-of-client or in close-knit invite only groups that have been around for years and don't take new members. The public, in-game RP scene is long, long dead.
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    Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
    « Reply #39 on: March 01, 2019, 07:03:19 pm »
    The Belgariad and the Mallorean by David Eddings for me for fiction. 

    I remember those ... though I have to admit, I liked the sister series Elenium/Tamuli better. Not sure why as they're the same core story.

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    Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
    « Reply #40 on: March 01, 2019, 07:18:05 pm »
    The Kindly Ones - Neil Gaiman. Very esoteric journey and leaves you with a lot of introspection and questioning.

    It's been a while since I read any Sandman - I have to be in the right headspace to read it, but I agree about the introspection.

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    Poésies Complètes - Emile Nelligan. French-Canadian lyric poet. His poems deeply touch me, nostalgia and depression can be very hard but it's a little death with it's own beauty when you can turn the pain and feelings into verses.

    I'm unfamiliar with his work, but your description sort of reminds me of the music of Roch Voisine, another French-Canadian artist.

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    Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
    « Reply #41 on: March 30, 2019, 05:24:02 am »
    OP

    I'll add a list when I'm more awake, but does anyone else get the problem where something's really comforting for a while, but then a few years pass, and then that thing only reminds you of the time in which it was comforting, giving you sad nostalgia instead of comforting you when you return to it?

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    Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
    « Reply #42 on: March 30, 2019, 09:23:15 am »
    I'll add a list when I'm more awake, but does anyone else get the problem where something's really comforting for a while, but then a few years pass, and then that thing only reminds you of the time in which it was comforting, giving you sad nostalgia instead of comforting you when you return to it?

    I've experienced that at least once - I actually very rarely re-read Small Gods because of this (the only Discworld book I don't re-read frequently).

    I kind of get almost the opposite as well though - I frequently get nostalgic for things it makes no sense to be nostalgic for (for example, the time I had to attend the dermatology unit at the hospital across town three mornings a week at 7am, before work, for three months...!)

    The other way around seems more ...logical, though (if anything in psychology can really be called such - I think I've more than a little a touch of neuroses, here).  Not sure how to combat it, though, so no suggestions there I'm afraid.
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    Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
    « Reply #43 on: March 31, 2019, 06:02:08 am »
    I've experienced that at least once - I actually very rarely re-read Small Gods because of this (the only Discworld book I don't re-read frequently).

    I kind of get almost the opposite as well though - I frequently get nostalgic for things it makes no sense to be nostalgic for (for example, the time I had to attend the dermatology unit at the hospital across town three mornings a week at 7am, before work, for three months...!)

    The other way around seems more ...logical, though (if anything in psychology can really be called such - I think I've more than a little a touch of neuroses, here).  Not sure how to combat it, though, so no suggestions there I'm afraid.

    I visited my old university campus today and I honestly don’t know how to feel about it. I found myself asking, “was it really such a great time here? Or am I just remembering the great times?”

    It’s comforting in a way, because it shows that life goes on. Everything will change. But it’s also a bit sad.

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    Re: Actual chicken soup for the soul
    « Reply #44 on: April 01, 2019, 06:19:49 pm »
    I'll add a list when I'm more awake, but does anyone else get the problem where something's really comforting for a while, but then a few years pass, and then that thing only reminds you of the time in which it was comforting, giving you sad nostalgia instead of comforting you when you return to it?

    I'm not much of a nostalgic person, but I do have a thing where, if I read something that I like a lot, I'll reread it less than something so-so, so that the impact doesn't wear off. I'm not sure if it actually works that well though.

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