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Author Topic: Hobbies: Staining & Finishing Wood Ogham Staves  (Read 2228 times)

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Staining & Finishing Wood Ogham Staves
« on: March 26, 2015, 03:01:23 pm »
Hey, Woodworkers!  I need some advice.

I recently received a beautiful set of handmade ogham staves.  It's actually 3 full sets, each stave made out of the kind of wood represented by that symbol (so, the Dair staves are made out of oak wood, the Beith staves out of birch wood, etc.), all using found twigs, not pieces cut off of trees. Each stave is 2"-2.5" long and between 0.25" and 0.5" in diameter, although most are roughly the diameter of a pencil. This set includes 3 full sets of staves because I use the Three Current method of reading that was developed by Erryn Rowan Laurie (kinda sorta like suits in tarot), so there are 60 pieces total.

I need to do something to distingush each set from the others.  F'ex, I have a triple set of ogham stones in which each set is made from a different kind of stone.  The celestial current set is celestine stones, the ocianic current set is clear quartz, and the chthonic current set is labradorite.

I'm thinking of staining the staves -- probably purple for the celestial current set, blue for the oceanic current set, and red-brown for the chthonic current set. But, of course, I don't know anything about wood working. 

I don't want to use a harsh chemical stain, and I don't need much stain at all, since the staves are small.  After doing some research online, I think I've settled on making a stain using food coloring.  But I've found 2 methods.  One uses white vinegar and the other uses alcohol.

Any recommendations?

Similarly, I want to use a natural finish.  The internet has many suggestions, including beeswax, walnut oil, and tung oil.  I'm leaning toward beeswax because it sounds like that will protect the staves well and be easy to work with.  But again, I don't know what I'm doing.

I found a local source that sells beeswax pellets by the ounce.  Any idea how much I'd need for a little project like this?

Suggestions for how to apply it?

Thanks!!!
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Re: Staining & Finishing Wood Ogham Staves
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2015, 05:40:18 am »
Quote from: Aster Breo;173413
Hey, Woodworkers!  I need some advice.

I recently received a beautiful set of handmade ogham staves.  It's actually 3 full sets, each stave made out of the kind of wood represented by that symbol (so, the Dair staves are made out of oak wood, the Beith staves out of birch wood, etc.), all using found twigs, not pieces cut off of trees. Each stave is 2"-2.5" long and between 0.25" and 0.5" in diameter, although most are roughly the diameter of a pencil. This set includes 3 full sets of staves because I use the Three Current method of reading that was developed by Erryn Rowan Laurie (kinda sorta like suits in tarot), so there are 60 pieces total.

I need to do something to distingush each set from the others.  F'ex, I have a triple set of ogham stones in which each set is made from a different kind of stone.  The celestial current set is celestine stones, the ocianic current set is clear quartz, and the chthonic current set is labradorite.

I'm thinking of staining the staves -- probably purple for the celestial current set, blue for the oceanic current set, and red-brown for the chthonic current set. But, of course, I don't know anything about wood working.  

I don't want to use a harsh chemical stain, and I don't need much stain at all, since the staves are small.  After doing some research online, I think I've settled on making a stain using food coloring.  But I've found 2 methods.  One uses white vinegar and the other uses alcohol.

Any recommendations?

Similarly, I want to use a natural finish.  The internet has many suggestions, including beeswax, walnut oil, and tung oil.  I'm leaning toward beeswax because it sounds like that will protect the staves well and be easy to work with.  But again, I don't know what I'm doing.

I found a local source that sells beeswax pellets by the ounce.  Any idea how much I'd need for a little project like this?

Suggestions for how to apply it?

Thanks!!!

Someone on http://www.craftster.org/ might know and also try a woodworking forum.
There be some woodworking forums. Also maybe on one of the groups at PaganSpace.:)
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Re: Staining & Finishing Wood Ogham Staves
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2015, 05:48:50 am »
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Someone on http://www.craftster.org/ might know and also try a woodworking forum.
There be some woodworking forums. Also maybe on one of the groups at PaganSpace.:)

 
Online there are several beeswax polish recipes. Some years ago I made something similar to this http://www.diydriftwood.com/make-beeswax-polish/ in a smaller quantity.:)

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Re: Staining & Finishing Wood Ogham Staves
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2015, 12:22:54 pm »
Quote from: Aster Breo;173413

I'm thinking of staining the staves -- probably purple for the celestial current set, blue for the oceanic current set, and red-brown for the chthonic current set. But, of course, I don't know anything about wood working.  

I don't want to use a harsh chemical stain, and I don't need much stain at all, since the staves are small.  After doing some research online, I think I've settled on making a stain using food coloring.  But I've found 2 methods.  One uses white vinegar and the other uses alcohol.

 
I'm thinking that the vinegar or the alcohol is being used to set the food dye so it doesn't come off. The difference between alcohol and vinegar is that with vinegar, the alcohol has been metabolized into acetic acid. These are different chemicals which will work in different ways. To make an informed decision, you would have to know why they work to set the dye. So, someone with a higher than Grade 10 knowledge of chemistry should be able to help with that, I guess.

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