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Author Topic: [ADMIN} Discord Chat: The Cauldron's Standard Rules Do Apply!  (Read 433 times)

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Recent events in our Discord Chat area have been brought to the attention of myself and LyricFox. It seems a few members of The Cauldron have forgotten that our standard rules for member behavior apply to all aspects of The Cauldron -- not just to our message board -- unless specific rules for an area approved by a Host or Senior Staff member and posted in the area by a Staff member state otherwise.

A private area of Discord chat called "NSFW Chat" was set up for discussions on sacred sexuality and the like. While special rules for it should probably have been created, they were not. However, as this area was obviously a part of The Cauldron, TC's standard rules still apply. Unfortunately, some apparently took the "NSFW" channel name to mean that juvenile images and posts, including posts that amounted to sexual harassment were okay. Worse, looking back through the messages in other channels on our Discord Chat showed that rules-violating behavior (personal attacks, etc.) was not confined to the private channel.

Unfortunately, our chat staff cannot live online the way some of our chatters seem able to, so it is easy for chat staff to miss problems. Even when they are online and participating, if they are distracted for a bit (say to answer the phone or help a family member) it is easy for a rules violating message to be posted and scroll off their screen while they are distracted.

The Hosts have made the following decisions:

1) To post this message reminding members that The Cauldron's rules apply to all parts of The Cauldron: our message board, our Discord chat, our website, and any other part of The Cauldron that may be created in the future.

2) To remind members who see clear rules violations -- especially those that make you very uncomfortable (e.g. sexual suggestions) -- should be reported. You can report this message to report chat problems. Just be sure to give us enough info about the issue so we can find the problem message.

3) The NSFW channel will be completely closed. While a channel for discussing sacred sexuality and the like is not a bad idea, this channel turned into a cesspool. Any future channel on this subject will have clear rules and will have to be better monitored.

Finally, Lyric and I would like to apologize to those members who have visited our Discord chat and been offended by the occasional rude and annoying behavior of a few members there. While this behavior was somewhat rare outside of the private NSFW Chat channel, I am sure some members have been offended. I know I was offended by some of the behavior I saw when I read though the chat logs. As there are tens of thousands of messages in those logs, I am sure I probably did not notice all of the offensive behavior.
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Re: [ADMIN} Discord Chat: The Cauldron's Standard Rules Do Apply!
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2019, 06:59:12 pm »
Unfortunately, our chat staff cannot live online the way some of our chatters seem able to, so it is easy for chat staff to miss problems.

I'm making a brief addendum here to clarify this line, because it's come to my attention that a few people find it alarming (and if there are some who've some to my attention, there are likely more that haven't).

It's a factual observation about what chat staff aren't able to do, not meant as a dis against people who spend a lot of time online. Realtime chat requires much more attention than forums do - hence the importance of numbered point 2, reminding members that they can and should report any violations they see. We need your help to do this well!

Randall doesn't object to people who 'live online'; he's much more likely, provided they show a grasp of TC's rules and culture, to put a staff hat on them, as witness the second item in my .sig ;D.

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Re: [ADMIN} Discord Chat: The Cauldron's Standard Rules Do Apply!
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2019, 02:09:09 am »
Recent events in our Discord Chat area have been brought to the attention of myself and LyricFox.

Yikes. Total yikes. I'm rather glad I'm such a forum junkie and didn't spend enough time on Discord to run into any of that.

As an aside, is there anywhere on the forum for discussing sacred sexuality? That's a topic I'm quite interested in, and I'm a bit disappointing to find out about a place for discussing it only once said place was removed.
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Re: [ADMIN} Discord Chat: The Cauldron's Standard Rules Do Apply!
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2019, 02:51:10 am »


As an aside, is there anywhere on the forum for discussing sacred sexuality? That's a topic I'm quite interested in, and I'm a bit disappointing to find out about a place for discussing it only once said place was removed.

I'm not saying that there shouldn't be such a place here, but I would request that it be hidden from those who have not opted in. I would find such posts a distraction if they were to show up regularly among the ordinary "unread posts."

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Re: [ADMIN} Discord Chat: The Cauldron's Standard Rules Do Apply!
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2019, 03:01:43 am »

I'm not saying that there shouldn't be such a place here, but I would request that it be hidden from those who have not opted in. I would find such posts a distraction if they were to show up regularly among the ordinary "unread posts."

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Such a board or group would absolutely be hidden/private in some way, as it would be dealing with subjects that many members of said board wouldn't necessarily want broadcast to the wide internet (or even broader TC membership).

As an aside, is there anywhere on the forum for discussing sacred sexuality? That's a topic I'm quite interested in, and I'm a bit disappointing to find out about a place for discussing it only once said place was removed.

With the old social groups set-up (before we converted the board to what it is now), we did have a group set up for such discussion. There has been talk of restarting it, but I don't know when or how that will happen.

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Re: [ADMIN} Discord Chat: The Cauldron's Standard Rules Do Apply!
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2019, 03:37:11 am »
Such a board or group would absolutely be hidden/private in some way, as it would be dealing with subjects that many members of said board wouldn't necessarily want broadcast to the wide internet (or even broader TC membership).

Yeah, frankly - I wouldn't want it any other way. Some topics should be kinda hard to access, and this is one of them.

With the old social groups set-up (before we converted the board to what it is now), we did have a group set up for such discussion. There has been talk of restarting it, but I don't know when or how that will happen.

From what I've heard over on Randall's thread about it, the new site is gonna be quite flexible - maybe he can chime and say if this might be possible once the 2019 site is up and running?
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Re: [ADMIN} Discord Chat: The Cauldron's Standard Rules Do Apply!
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2019, 06:49:46 pm »
From what I've heard over on Randall's thread about it, the new site is gonna be quite flexible - maybe he can chime and say if this might be possible once the 2019 site is up and running?

I have been interested in starting such a group as well; I've asked about it, and the new board does have the capacity for private SIGs. Details are still to be hashed out obviously.

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Re: [ADMIN} Discord Chat: The Cauldron's Standard Rules Do Apply!
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2019, 11:33:42 pm »
I have been interested in starting such a group as well; I've asked about it, and the new board does have the capacity for private SIGs. Details are still to be hashed out obviously.

That is excellent news.
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Re: [ADMIN} Discord Chat: The Cauldron's Standard Rules Do Apply!
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2019, 09:10:08 pm »
I'm making a brief addendum here to clarify this line, because it's come to my attention that a few people find it alarming (and if there are some who've some to my attention, there are likely more that haven't).

It's a factual observation about what chat staff aren't able to do, not meant as a dis against people who spend a lot of time online. Realtime chat requires much more attention than forums do - hence the importance of numbered point 2, reminding members that they can and should report any violations they see. We need your help to do this well!

Randall doesn't object to people who 'live online'; he's much more likely, provided they show a grasp of TC's rules and culture, to put a staff hat on them, as witness the second item in my .sig ;D.

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